Will Helenius be the next undisputed heavyweight champion of the world?

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  1. Goodhill

    Goodhill Iron Horse - born to lose Full Member

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    By Shaun Murphy: I used to have high hopes for Audley Harrison, so I can be wrong about a fighter’s prospects, but I believe Robert Helenius is a strong, capable fighter; in fact, I believe he’s the heir apparent to the Klitschko brothers.

    I don’t think anybody can doubt an extensive amateur career is a massive advantage for a professional boxer; the ‘’Nordic Nightmare’’, after 7 years in the vest, won a silver medal in the 2006 European Championships and showed he was a big, skilled heavyweight with a punch. When he turned pro in 2008 he had 9 priceless years of amateur experience behind him.
    Helenius’ first few fights were easy and against lower quality opposition. It wasn’t until he fought the useful Welshman Scott Gammer that he showed how good he could become. Unlike many big fighters (like Tye Fields and Michael Grant) who use their size to bully rather than dominate, Helenius stood over the outclassed Gammer and poked a straight left in his face while punishing him from body to head with savage blows. The final right hook to the body was a killer. Gammer looked up at the ceiling, breathed through his teeth and shook his head. He didn’t get up.

    The next fight where Helenius showed his abilities was against Lamon Brewster. Yes, we all know that the Brewster who chased Wladimir Klitschko across the ring wasn’t there that night; and yes, he was old. Helenius, however, could only beat what was in-front of him, and some people even expected Brewster to win. He had no chance. Helenius controlled him from behind his jab and finished the American with a slashing right hand in the eighth.

    Before fighting Samuel Peter, Helenius won the European title with another knockout. But when he entered the ring against the tough, dangerous Nigerian he had a major disadvantage in experience. Importantly, He showed a good chin whenever Peter managed to get inside; and, in the ninth, he threw a left hook that put Peter onto his huge, muscular back. When Peter got up, Helenius threw a right hand that put him back on the canvas; Peter had that Gammer look: tough heavyweights can break a man’s spirit. The ‘’Nordic Nightmare’’ is like that.

    On August the 27th, in Munich, Germany, I believe Helenius is going to knock out the former World Boxing Organization (WBO) champion Sergo Liakhovich. The ‘’White Wolf’’ is a tough, big-boned guy but he’s a brawler: you just can’t stand in-front of a tall, modern day heavyweight like Helenius and expect to stay vertical. When and if Helenius wins, the ‘’Nordic Nightmare’’ will have sent out another message that his ultimate destination is undisputed heavyweight champion of the world. Listen to his interviews (the ones in English); it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy!

    Article posted on 22.08.2011
     
    Goodhill, Aug 22, 2011
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  2. ceestar1

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    He will defo collect a couple of ABC belts but will probably look to avoid to K Bros...I just cant see him taking any of them on personally. I cant see Vitali having more than one or two more after Adamek, and surely Wlad will get bored of the lack of challengers within the division but while he can still make money he could go on for at least another 3-4 years so Helenius may not have a choice.
     
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  3. Goodhill

    Goodhill Iron Horse - born to lose Full Member

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    I´m a huge fan of Robbe myself, but tend to think likewise.
     
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  4. Goodhill

    Goodhill Iron Horse - born to lose Full Member

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    Shaun Murphy´s article was heart warming for a fan, though
     
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  5. Boxing Fanatic

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    he has potential, but, he has stamina and defense problems. the power, reach, size is there. until he corrects these or improves on them, he is bound to get into trouble
     
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  6. Robney

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    I expect him to be a coming beltholder and maybe even 2 belts, but not undisputed. Currently that's almost impossible.
     
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  7. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    About a week before the Brewster fight I saw a promo about Robbe Helenius. I looked into him, and watched a video of him training. I knew Brewster had some serious punch resistance and good work ethic, but was past it as far as ever becoming champ again. Having seen the vid, I picked Robbe to upset the former world beater, and most all my friends thought I was a fool. I didn't get to see the fight, but when I read about it, I immediately began hyping this kid as the NEXT GREAT HW.

    In 97 I told all my family and friends that Wlad and Vitali would take over as the best.

    I missed on Kirkland, Green, and Flores, but Flores jury is still out on those guys so I'll wait and see, but IMO Helenius is a surefire champion, a can't miss, and Flores, if he gets his act together might be as well.
     
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  8. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Helenius fights Wlad eventually. Late 2012, or early 2013. For now, stick with the plan. Assuming RH beats Liakovitch, then I bet he has another test against a Universum fighter...Dimitrenko, Chagaev, or Gomez.

    Right now RH has weaknesses, and most of the Top 10 heavyweights beat him convincingly.
     
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  9. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    His only weakness is Dr's K2:hey
     
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  10. MrMagic

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    Having seen him progress as an amateur and all, I must say he's grossly overrated for his wins over Brewster and Peter. Liakhovich is shopworn and will likely lose aswell.

    I'd pick the following to beat him:

    W&V Klitschko
    Haye
    Povetkin
    Boytsov
    Adamek
    Solis
    Pulev
    Arreola

    And following men to have 50/50 fights with him:

    Fury
    Chisora
    Thompson
    Dimitrenko
    Chambers
    Stiverne



    Overrated, for sure.
     
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  11. Cachibatches

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    There is never, ever going to be another undisputed champ, period.
     
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  12. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    He should aim for the winner of Chagaev vs Povetkin before ever considering a Klitschko. Trust me I know Im a Haye fan. Take my word for it
     
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  13. Nosbor

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    Good Lord NO!!!
     
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  14. anut

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    yes/ vitali will retire / but helinuis will knock out a past prime wlad
     
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  15. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if he can do what the klit bros do he can, i dont think he can beat either of the bros right now. i just think they are better then him and still bigger, they look stronger.
     
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