Will History Favour The Brave? Case of Oscar De La Hoya

Mayweather turned pro at 19 years old and weighed 131, he left the 130 division when he was 24. It's normal for young fighters to go up through a division or two.
Do people suggest he was past his prime at 25 ?

 

Wrong thread?

 

Many people point to the Corrales fight as his prime performance. He scaled 137 for Chico. Was he past it at 25? Obviously not, but not much changed in the move up to lightweight. He was 138 for both Castillo bouts to Castillo's 148/147.

I submit that De La Hoya rounded out his skills a little later on partly because he was a drainer. The best we've seen of Oscar, in my opinion, was the stretch between Quartey and Mosley at welterweight, where he tipped in at 152 on the night.

 

I could imagine Duran suddenly and unexpectedly quitting in the biggest fight of his career.

 

I watched that fight in reverse and it ended with Oscar starring down Pac like a badass.

 

Agree with a lot of what is said here. Oscar was a true warrior. I did however feel that Pernell slightly deserved the decision over him.

 

What did you WATCH it by then, telepathy?:rofl

On topic I don't see how anyone can fault Oscar, who ducked no one to my knowledge, and actually looked for the best possible opponents.

 

If you score the fight round by round as it should be, there is no way anyone can justify the excuse for the blatant robbery.

ODLH clearly won round 9. He also won round 10 but it was a bit closer but still very clear.

Rounds 11 and 12 were close, but Tito edged it for simply being the agressor, though ineffective.

Also, SSM is a known steroid cheat. He moved up from 135 to 147 and looked stronger than ODLH who was considered a bigger WW. :think

So if we give Trinidad the benefit of the doubt, one can say he won rounds 4, 11, and 12th... If anyone wants to include round 10, fine, but it was clearly Oscar's. That is still 8-4 for Oscar... No way anyone can justify it by saying Oscar vhopse to Potshot the last 3 rounds, because he won round 10 pot-shotting.

 

Oscar dominated Mosley in the rematch. Jack Mosley basically telling Mosley he needed to KO Oscar De La Hoya going into the 9th!! Mosley telling his Father that DLH was to fast for him.

Mosley did not pose a stylistic advantage over Oscar, Oscar fought the wrong fight because of the criticism he recieved after Trinidad.

In the rematch Oscar completely outboxed Mosley. It was a huge robbery, to the extenet the FBI got involved but found nothing on Arum.

As far as the Trinidad fight went, Oscar won 9-3, not even debatable.

Close fights:

Quartey
Whitaker
Mayweather

 

A lot depends on how high you rate Mosley and Trinidad. DLH fought both in their primes, but in retrospect neither Tito or Mosley are as highly regarded today as they were when fighting.

 

History will be kind to Oscar, He fought the best at or near their best.

He was ALWAYS competitive, even in defeat.

His stock has been rising with me.

 

:blood

 

I agree with your version of Oscar, except I thought that he clearly beat Sweet Pea (Pernell made him look dumb and clumsy but didn't land enough solid punches to win many rounds), and I scored Quartey a draw and thought that the fight could have gone either way.

 

you done been takin' dem boys too far out into th' ozone agin'!

 

Oscar De La Hoya is a man who can hold his head high, in the knowledge he walked away from fighting owing the sport less than nothing, and was fully deserved of every cent it ever gave him. IMHO.