Will Hopkisn neutralize Calzaghe's high punch output .....

There are many factors of the fight that could play a part in the outcome. It's ridiculous to judge before the fight.

What if Joe clearly gets old overnight? etc..

I will reserve judgement on whether Joe Calzaghe is an ATG until after he has retired, the same as Bernard Hopkins.

 

Kessler IMO is a world class fighter, so is Eubank. I also think Reid was a world class fighter, who got some unlucky breaks much like Glen Johnson. Either way, perception of a weak division can hurt many fighters. I give him credit for cleaning it out and unifying. The same amount I give Hopkins.

You don't seem to be willing give equal credit to your criticism if the opposite scenario happens from what you think will happen.

 

Yes, Hopkins' movement and defense can lower Calzaghe's punch output. However, Calzaghe will still be outworking him.

 

Jase2483 - if you're so concerned with the respect, history and reputation of boxing, why can't you appreciate a gutsy box-fighter who uses everything he has to win a fight. Just look forward to the fight without trying (and you're not doing it that well) to pass Calzaghe off as a nobody who never was. Few boxers get the kind of record Calzaghe has got, appreciate him for what he is.

 

Hopkins dominated several different weights?
Beat several fighters which are DEFINITE HOF-ers???

Resume's aren't even close - if you're going to argue a counter point, logically think it through first please.

 

I'm just saying he doesn't deserve to be considered a great - I'm shocked he's taking the b-hop fight - I thought he'd fight a few more bums, retire 50-0, and act like he's better than marciano. But thats just my humble opinion.

He's a fighter who i feel deserves more criticism for his career than PBF, but gets none of it....funny how fan perception effects that.

 

Hopkins will need to limit Joe's output big time to have any chance of winning this fight. I'm not sure he can do it.

 

Gets none of it?

Have you been living in a cave? Not a day goes by without a Joe Calzaghe resume thread

 

I don't say this very often, but you are a complete moron.

This is my last post directed towards you:

It's easy to discredit ANY record.

 

Don't resort to the childishness.

Hopkins has dominated exactly ONE weight class. He isn't a dominant LHW, and has yet to fight a LHW since winning his title. He is now about to fight another NON LHW. How is that dominating the weight class? He has fought ONE LHW....

Their resumes aren't that far apart. The 3 HoF Hopkins has beaten, he beat none of them in their prime weights (actually all 3 were beaten at least 2 weight classes over Prime weight). And they all came up to face him. Is that a criticism? Perhaps....I think the Trinidad win is a good one. I don't rate the DLH and Wright wins very highly because of the condition they were in and how far from their natural weights they were. Hopkins has a better resume, but it's not the gap you make it out to be. Calzaghe has beaten 1 HoF and who knows what Kessler will do.

 

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I wasn't being childish....I was being honest. Joe C doesn't have near the quality wins B-Hop has, its a plain and simple fact. You can continually try to narrow the gap, and try to pick your loved Joe C up into the ranks of the greats....but he's not. He fought in a transitional weight class designed for past their prime 154/160's or young fighters getting ring exp before going LHW.....true story.

 

lacy's another prospect that got more over-rated than I thought possible, and now post shoulder surgery, he'll never be the fighter anyone hoped he'd be. He struggled to decision manfredo......laughable.

 

hmmm, i wonder if people predicting bhop realise Joe has a world class jab, head movement and inside game as well?

He tries any rough **** with Joe on the inside hes going to get badly beaten up.

Joe's going to sit in the pocket the whole fight, wait for bhop to tie him up and smash the **** out of him with combinations coming out of the clinch

 

We'll see.

personally for all the Joe C bashing I've done in this thread I still see him getting by BHop, but not NEARLY as easy as most people suspect. If he wins it will help him gain alot of respect in my book, but personally I dont think he's done enough to be an ATG, especially if the rumors are true and he retires post BHop