Will HW division get era where top fighters are 300 lbs+ strongmen?

I am not a geneticist but my guess is that the evolutionary trend towards bigger people will hit some kind of wall when women can no longer safely carry their babies, and when people start dying of heart attacks in athletic competitions because the human heart has only so much capacity.

When this will happen I have no idea. Perhaps we will see some Goliaths.


But at some point it has to stop.

 

Only if PEDs are officially allowed.

 

Joshua will probably end up 280-290 by the end of his career

 

Boxing would have to have drastically shortened rounds and fights to accommodate their vastly reduced tanks.

It all depends on how boxing evolves in the future.

 

No, probably not. Huge amounts of muscle means huge amounts of oxygen needed to feed that muscle. We all saw AJ gas against Wlad when he tried to pick up the pace. We saw Wlad gas against Puritty. In MMA we have some even more spectacular examples of gassing, where Shane Carwin totally blew his load against Lesnar after dominating the fight.

An actual strongman, Mariusz Pudzianowski, fought against Tim Sylvia. Mariusz even commented how weak and flimsy Tim was and how he was going to enjoy hurting him. By the end of the first round Mariusz was as red as a beetroot and his tank was on zero. Tim proceeded to pound the crap out of him.

What we might get are genetic freaks like Hong Man Choi, Valuev etc that are naturally huge and using that size to advantage. But even here, sheer size has it's limitations, hampering speed etc.

I say that 240 - 260lb and 6'4' to 6'7' is the top end and ideal size for a modern superheavy.

 

He doesnt have the frame. Look how narrow his shoulders are. He would probably lose weight if he didnt eat and train like a maniac.

Dillian Whyte is naturally bigger than Joshua and carries more weight and is wider also.

 

Close, I make prosthetics, I'm not a doctor but I am a medical professional with a bit more training than a nutritionist or some such similar nonsense.


Anyway, people get a misconception with the big men. Man is not larger in terms of potential size. We live in a world were a 6'6" 265lb man can be supported and is likely to survive. That's really it. There's always been giants, but they used to die because of the lack of industry to support them. Better nutrition, better medical, better standard of living, makes it so big men can survive, not so that man has new DNA to produce even bigger than what was our potential back 484BC.

There are more dwarves and mentally ******eds alive too and no one seems to conflate that with a DNA or evolutionary change in mankind. We all seem to have the ability to recognize they're here because we support them but when it comes to a guy like Valuev we for some reason we assume Valuev would have survived to adulthood pre-industrialization there was just less valuevs being born at the time. Well, no, had a baby been born with Valuev's genes in 1720 that baby would probably be dead by adulthood or at least have serious medical issues.

Five foot something one hundred something pounds dominates history because they are survivors of the highest class. Literally no form of primordial savagery too harsh for him to take. It's not that the Gladiator is lucky he never faced a giant in battle, it's that the giant is lucky the gladiator has built a system to support his giant ass.

 

top 10 heavys in the early 80s were all 6.1 to 6.4 210 to 225 range
a few exceptions like cooney

now 30 years later it is 6.4 to 6.7 and 225 to 270 with the exception of povetkin the average

roughly of the top of my head
whyte 6.4 -250
wilder 6.7 225
fury 6.9- .260
povetkin 6.2 =225
parker 6.4 -240
brezeale 6.7-260
joshua 6.6 -250
miller 6-4 -280
ortiz 6.4 -250

interchange these with other fighters rom today

then a snapshot of top 10 early 80s heavies i will just wing it off the top of my head in no order

weaver-6-1 -210
snipes-6-2-215
dokes 6-1 -215
coetzee 6-2 - 220
holmes 6.4 -220
page-6.2 ? -230
tubbs -6.1-230 ?
thomas 6.3-225
bruno 6.3 -230
etc etc

cooney was 6.7 225
carl williams was 6.4= 215

these were just perenial fighters around the top 10 that i remmeber .
,many others to chose from

but on avaergae there looks to have been a 2 to 3 inch height appreciation since the early 80s and at least 20 to 30lbs average.

and if you went back 30 years to the early 50s then the 80s heavies were a lot taller and heavier overall as well

i would guess but i will be well into my 80s by then that in 30 years heavies will be 6.6 to 6.10 and average 270 to 280.

every gerneration is getting taller and bigger / i dont know a single dad whose grown up sons are shorter than they are and its not even close they are usually 3 to 4 inchs taller.

 

Who is the biggest heavyweight of all time?

 

I liked this post. Very interesting.

 

biggest top heavyweight is valuev

there have been a few 7 foot fighters but they were china chinned valuev is the only 7 foot fighter to actually be competitive v top 10 fighters.

ding dong of china is a mountain but not heard of him in a while .

i would guess there are some 7 foot fighters i have never heard off on the american circut top 300 who might be taller and heavier than valuev.
mike white was tall but not as heavy.

definatly none from europe in my lifetime although i did once see a novice heavy on a swedish ? denmark ? bill definatley scandanavian many years ago who was about 6.5 but was a huge huge bodybuilder and must have weighed 350 to 400 plus he had shoulders and chest that filled the whole ring.

but he could not box a lick.

 

Eddie Hall spars, anybody that can dead lift 500kg must pack a punch. Would probably be no better than Pudz in mma albeit.

 

had to look up eddie hall see who he was
turns out to be worlds strongest man

shows how much tv i watch/ last time i remember watching that it was geoff capes v an icelandic big man .

eddie hall employing klitchko tactics and grabbing hold in a bear hug up close might work
he looks like he could crush his opponents arms and then tee off when they could not fight back.