Will James Toney knocking out Couture finally be the nail in the coffin for MMA?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by 'Ben', May 6, 2010.


  1. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Toney submits Randy Couture I'll eat my own head South Park Blane style.
     
  2. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think it will happen, but you have to admit, it would probably be the nail in the coffin for MMA.

    But chances of it occuring are extremelly slim to none.
     
  3. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You make almost no sense in the huge majority of your posts.

    How would that be the nail in the coffin? Is Toney not allowed to learn submissions? Is he only allowed to use his boxing? No. If, by a miracle (and it'll take one for this to happen) Toney submitted Randy Couture it would simply mean that Randy wasn't as diligent as he usually is (say when he fought Nogueira) and that Toney has learned an immense amount about submission grappling in a short period of time and applied it well. How would that mean the "final nail in the coffin"? It's not like grappling knowledge is exclusive to some people and not available to others...
     
  4. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It would show that Toney has the ability to beat arguably the best MMA fighter of all time at his own game.
     
  5. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Still waiting for your point.

    I'll say right now that Toney has the ability to beat an MMA Legend in an MMA match.
     
  6. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Re: the "undies" question...

    Corbett wore a thong in the ring. This was not unusual at the turn of the century. Take it as you like. :think
     
  7. snakey112

    snakey112 Active Member Full Member

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    the best MMA fighter of all time?

    lmao gtfo
     
  8. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    lolwut?

    do you even pay attention to MMA enough to make respectable observations or are you just a rabid "MMA sucks" boxing fan? You can enjoy both sports dude.
     
  9. amhlilhaus

    amhlilhaus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    couture as the best of all time is a huge stretch- way too many losses. sakuraba, fedor, matt hughes, wanderlei silva, all have better resumes than couture.
     
  10. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lol @ toney submitting RC
     
  11. J_Roth

    J_Roth VRWC Hybrid Beaner Full Member

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    I don't think it would be a big surprise for either guy to win. Couture has been chinny for a while now. James can catch anyone clean from a unseen angle and rock their clock. Randy is a solid wrestler and James is a boxer. Seems like a styles possibility. No shame getting caught by James Toney. If Randy stands and trades he is asking for it. It's not like it's a low level never has been coming to MMA. It is a ATG. Def not in his prime but I don't think Randy is either. Randy should win but you never know.
     
  12. Rob_Floyd

    Rob_Floyd Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can only see reading homoeroticism into any form of fighting if that is what you are watching it for. If all you can think about is gay sex when watching MMA, I think it says more about you than it does the sport.

    Boxing and MMA are my two favorite sports, and they both have there place. Boxing is obviously more refined at this point since MMA has only been developing for the past twenty or so years, and only really rapidly developing in the past ten.

    Couture will beat Toney easily unless he lands heavy when Couture shoots for the takedown.
     
  13. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I'll laugh my nuts off if Toney wins via anything other than a punch. Elbows are really easy to pick up once you have a boxing stance and torso twisting technique. Even knees are really easy to learn. Kicks is where some real science is involved.

    Is someone like Toney even flexible enough to learn some kicks. I doubt it!
     
  14. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    i can imagine toney trying to learn a sort of pawing kick to keep someone back or distract them and follow it with a straight but i doubt he's quick enough with his legs.
     
  15. bloodoodyalways

    bloodoodyalways New Member Full Member

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    either...

    1.Toney wins-outboxes him stood up, and knocks randy out or unam dec.
    2.Toney wins-1punch k.o
    3Toney wins by gnp or submission

    or4 Randy wins-dirty boxing+k.o/stoppage/sub
    5.Randy wins sub
    6.randy wins dirty box/takedown/dirty box/takedown etc

    'nail in coffin' or even insult to mma even,only occurs if only No1 happens! any other result shows either toney has 'adapted'and become a mma fighter or he has lost!

    boxing vs mma is a bull**** arguement unless you see it in roughly these terms.
    someone wiser than me once said "if it walks like a crab and tastes like a crab......its a crab!!!"