Will Joe Joyce ever become undisputed champion?

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Will Joe Joyce ever become undisputed champion?

Poll closed Jan 29, 2023.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

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  3. MAYBE

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  1. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sadly, Boxing is not a level playing field. Joe is a really excellent Heavyweight and is deliberately ignored as he would be a hard night for anyone.
    He doesn't sell a lot so the Alphabet Boys don't really want him as a Champion as their percentage or sanctioning fees won't keep them in caviar.
    Finally, look at the hiding he got off Usyk in WSB.
     
  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Well you forgot that he has quite a fan base and lots of people are interested in seeing him in an all UK match. He is all of the above like you said but he has the requiem for a heavyweight as he is big, strong, can punch, can take a punch as has a good gas tank!

    They say he has six times the average bone density which could be a very good reason why he has shown an A+ chin. I think such test may be more part boxing in the future. The great JC Chavez was messed out at 2-3X the bone density and he had a heck of a chin for his weight / division.


    [url]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-11251787/Joe-Joyces-bone-density-SIX-times-normal-human-claims-sparring-partner.html[/url]
     
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  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Not addressed to me but I will reply if that's okay. He's not a fast handed athlete. That's for sure! He is more slow handed than his opponents. He lacks the elusiveity, fast reflexes and foot speed and fights " stiff " Not a graceful athlete.

    On the other had nature has given him a virtual suit of armor and he can hit hard. Much like Chuvalo, V Klitschko, and McCall and Mercer. Yes-- I think he has that type of durably in the ring. And is not like had lacks skills. He won silver in the Olympics. But yes he can be out boxed by a man who's defensive and quick or a super heavyweight with a very good and long jab and that man better be durable as well or he will be prone to lose via the " puncher's chance " which for Joyce lasts the full 12 rounds.

    I think he is a tough minded fighter too. But can he become the undisputed champion? I doubt it.
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yes his popularity has shot up since the Parker win

    Abnormally thick bone density is very common among British fighters

    Yes JCC Sr. had a hell of a set of whiskers
     
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  5. Entaowed

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    Mendoza that makes sense & is much appreciated!
    However true though, I do not think that this was what the guy was referring to.

    Which involved the same man, Joyce being seemingly contradictory things, chiefly slow & fast. Also others like both clumsy & graceful.
    I wonder in what sense he meant these things?
     
  6. Mendoza

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    It is? I never head of that. So goes the theory that many fighters English fighters have a glass jaw in at heavyweight. Hide, Haye, and Price come to mind. I think Tyson Fury's punch resistance is over rated, but his recovery from them is not.
     
  7. Mendoza

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    Unknown, he'll have to answer this point directly. He may be referring to the timing of Joyce's speed. One can be mentally quick and physically slow. It not common, but that is what he might be saying.

    In general fast feet almost always go with fast hands, but you don't see many fighters with slow feet and fast hands! Just like defense, It can be related to quick movement but there is also technical defense.

    I think Joyce doesn't have good defense ( relaxes or technical ability for defense ) or quick hands!
     
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  8. Serge

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    Yeah it's complete nonsense theory which was thought up by actual glass-jawed bum Brit Enviers
     
  9. Mendoza

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    Than which English heavyweights aside from Joyce punch out the theory? Surely there are examples in mind.

    I never heard of that
    by the way. Where did you hear of that? I'm interested, not calling you out so please do not take it that way.

    At heavyweight English men can be held in contempt of being from the Isle of glass jaw from those darn " Yankees. " At least this is the American view it. Several of American fighters who have good chins come to mind, but not for English heavyweights..
     
  10. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Win a title. Sure.
    Undisputed. That's probably not happening.
     
  11. BCS8

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    Very unlikely.

    He's already lost to Usyk before; beating him is going to be an uphill task. I don't think that much of Wilder but you have to have a bit of a defence against him. Joe's defence is his chin which is a bad plan for taking on Wilder. AJ I think is better than JJ in every department except chin. And Fury will box rings around JJ who he out speeds and outskills by a large margin.

    If JJ becomes undisputed he'll have to show us something we haven't seen before.
     
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  12. Serge

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    Not just HWs but British fighters in general

    It's common knowledge among the warriors of our tiny little majestic isle

    It's actually our cousins across the pond who are packing glass and can't punch their way through cobwebs albeit obviously not the ones with British ancestry
     
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  13. The Townsend

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    If Fury beats Usyk then fights Joyce then yes.

    As I believe Joyce beats Fury.
     
  14. Mendoza

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    All righty then! Apologies to our cousins the pond then. But regarding that bone density test I am curious to read it.
     
  15. Entaowed

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    I think the opposite is less common-fat fighters like Ruiz may have only their hans fast, & Joe Louis was like this!
     
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