will manny ever win a legit title at 154?

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  1. Jaguar

    Jaguar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You *******s are always the first to say how Floyd and Manny are/were the same size and gradually went up in weight at a comparable pace. So why then is Floyd able to fight the JMW champ at the JMW limit and Manny isn't? :huh
     
  2. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whoever said that is insane. FMJ's frame is obviously more massive than Pac's. Blacks naturally are vs Asians of the same height.

    It is common knowledge that Manny's best division would've been 140, only he never grew comfortable at the weight since he moved up to WW as soon as possible because it's where the money is.

    He would've cleaned the division easily.
    He did it at WW anyway, so...:thumbsup

    It's already pushing it at WW really. Man's a freak of nature.
    He paid a dear price when he pushed it further at 150.
    I really believe that Margarito left a permanent Mark on Pac's liver.
     
  3. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No....you don't...but to say someone else sucks there must be some validity to the statement. If manny "sucks" then everyone else who is actively boxing must be some straight up hot garbage.... And the one making the comment must be the 2nd coming of the great Ray Robinson.

    And there's absolutely no truth or proof Manny cheats.....if we are calling Pac a cheat then everyone is a cheat. **** evidence or having to back up my accusations.....there's no need for that..let's just call Floyd, mother Teresa and Ghandi cheats and keep it moving.

    You have a really interesting thought process kid.....so by you knowing which professors "rock" and which ones "suck" you some how think it justifies calling Pac a coward?:huh

    If you called Einstein a moron it would be comparable as the knuckle-head calling Pac a coward....or a ***** calling mother Theresa a slut.

    Pac cherry picks....so does Floyd.....most fighters do who are calling shots...but they are picking top level guys to scrap with so we can't be mad.

    So what part of Pac cherry picking easy opponents and having Big Bob "fix" or pay off these easy, cherry picked opponents makes any sense to you?:think. Why fix an easy fight? Why pay offa guy who will lose anyway?
     
  4. Doc

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    Doubt it Shot to **** Margo made him fight to much and that was plasterless Margo, and almost KTFO him to his glass body at one point.

    Dude would get owned by most 154 pounders at the legit 154 weight.. not some 150 shot to **** drained margo inactive for like 2 years after being banned and KTFO
     
  5. pure boxer

    pure boxer Guest

    1993
    106: Floyd Mayweather; Michigan (age 16)
    112: Carlos Navarro; So. California
    119: Terrance Churchwell; Knoxville
    125: Guillermo Moreno; So. California
    132: Danny Rios; Mid-South
    139: David Diaz; Chicago
    147: David Reid; Pennsylvania
    156: Darnell Wilson; Indiana
    165: Tarvis Simms; New England
    178: Benjamin Mc Dowell; Knoxville
    Hw: Frez Oquendo; Chicago
    Shw: Lance Whitaker; So. California


    2007


    106 pounds => 154 pounds in 14 years



    Jan. 22, 1995

    Pacquiao (age 16) vs. Ignacio (Light flyweight: 108 pounds)


    Nov. 13, 2010




    108 pounds => 150 pounds in 16 years
     
  6. pure boxer

    pure boxer Guest

    1993
    106: Floyd Mayweather; Michigan (age 16)
    112: Carlos Navarro; So. California
    119: Terrance Churchwell; Knoxville
    125: Guillermo Moreno; So. California
    132: Danny Rios; Mid-South
    139: David Diaz; Chicago
    147: David Reid; Pennsylvania
    156: Darnell Wilson; Indiana
    165: Tarvis Simms; New England
    178: Benjamin Mc Dowell; Knoxville
    Hw: Frez Oquendo; Chicago
    Shw: Lance Whitaker; So. California


    2007


    106 pounds => 154 pounds in 14 years



    Jan. 22, 1995

    Pacquiao (age 16) vs. Ignacio (Light flyweight: 108 pounds)


    Nov. 13, 2010




    108 pounds => 150 pounds in 16 years
     
  7. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even atgs had catchweight, Even armstrong, sugar ray leonard , de la hoya etc all fought at catchweights. List goes on... Why discredit just pacquiao?
     
  8. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    Simple, because they can't accept that there's someone who is actually equal or maybe even better than their beloved Floydee.
     
  9. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good
     
  10. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Well, his ESB user name should give you a hint. :roll:
     
  11. Jaguar

    Jaguar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are multiple photos and even web sites dedicated to this notion.

    Example: http://www.mannypaquiaovs.com/manny-pacquiao-floyd-mayweather-physical-evolution-photos/

    Manny fought the weakest title holder at 140 blatantly ducking the best in the division. If he could have cleaned out the division as you allege, why didn't he fight the best?
     
  12. PrinceN

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    you sure that wasn't the drinking?:hi:
     
  13. PrinceN

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    they tend to flip flop on that he is too small when you talking about him moving up in weight. But when it comes to steroids use Floyd and Manny have been the same size their whole life.
     
  14. KOTF

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    Cornelius Bundrage could come in at 180 and Pac would sodomize him.
     
  15. Doc

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    Why not Martinez at 154? no need to fight a bloated skill less belt carrier. Oh yeah, carefull match making you and TR have that to a tee