Will Pacquiao Become No.1 ATG if he beats Marquez,Diaz,Hatton and Retires?

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  1. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    If he beats JMM, Diaz and Hatton he will be top 25 ATG. in every worthwhile list so joe schmoe could have him ranked 99 and no one would give a ****. You get the drift?
     
  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    And hilarious enough, all of the Welter's he listed out KO him in 3, Hatton included. I think Diaz TKO's him also, easily.
     
  3. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well that's the "at least partially". I know we differ on the unspoken opinion he has on the chances Pacquiao has on winning any of the 3 fights after JMM that would move him that high.
     
  4. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    Without looking directly at my list (im at work) I think I had him at 15 + or - a spot or two
     
  5. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    Why do you ask? The reason he is around 15 atg is because he beat other atgs in Duran, Hearns, and Hagler. Those three have resumes that dwarf Marquez, Diaz, and Hatton. So tell me again how he cracks top ten atg status???
     
  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fair enough, a general ranking will due.

    SRL at 17 or so. Pacquiao not in the top 50 off beating JMM, Diaz, and Hatton. On just those wins alone, this is what his accomplishement would read.

    4 Division Lineal Champion (112, 122, 130, 140) with Ring titles at 126 and possibly 135 making him a 6 division titlist.

    He would have beaten 2 ATG, and at least a borderline ATG in JMM.

    Compare that to SRL's accomplishments and resume. I haven't added Mayweather because you didn't comment on his ranking definitively if he beat him. How would that not rate Pacquiao top 50?

    Now I don't believe a single one of the fights after JMM is more than 10% winnable for Pacquiao. But your response was to what was said, not what was possible.
     
  7. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Nah you dont get a coolcard because NYC is s cesspool now. Yeah I like Jersey City just cannot stand the industrial **** and a bit rundown also..there is alot of culture there. Secacus is nice as well just because of shopping used to go to PJs alot
    I heard Newark is going thru changes. Hoboken was hot 10 years ago I wonder how is it now
     
  8. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Top 10 would be including a win over Mayweather. That would make Pacquiao a 5 division Lineal champion (No one has more than 3) and have wins over 3 ATG's potentially 4 ATG. Hw would be a 7 division titlist off those wins as well. IF (and he won't) he pulled that off, that compares favorably to SRL, Duran, and Hagle in the modern era.
     
  9. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    PAC should get the recognition for fighting bigger fighters even if he loses just like Duran did. Losing to Hearns, Hagler, Benitez helped Durans claim to greatness more than it hurt it
     
  10. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    I should have been more careful with my words. He might fall 40-50 on my list,,,it depends on how Hatton and Diaz finish off their careers
     
  11. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    Ok I gotcha,,,,WITH Mayweather. Wow a lot of if's going on in this thread
     
  12. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yah, but they are if's on the scale of IF I won 5 lotto's in a row, would they lock me up and study me as a lab rat. These are those kinds of if's IMO.
     
  13. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  14. 1punch1nder

    1punch1nder **Bam Bam** Full Member

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    you can live in hell or wherever you want ***** i dont care. you are the kind of person i pity coz you consider migrating to another country an accomplishment. why? you can't make a living in your own country??? pardon me if there are filipinos reading this thread i just can't stomach this ingrate who looks down his own people because he is living is the good old U S A. :barf :barf :barf if jose rizal was alive he will smack you right in the face.:lol:

    and don't be so proud fool coz you are still a poor small brown man living in some rich foreign country. you are still a filipino no matter what you do!

    now if you see insults towards casual pacman fans posting here just let it be, don't jump in. don't use these people to bail yourself out, stop the he-is-a-stupid-filipino-i'm-not-because-i-agree-with-you bull****.
     
  15. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I agree. too many Pinoy posters here try to get brownie points from other posters. And they throw in the line" you make us all look bad" Im going to throw up hearing that **** one more time.

    Look I think PBF beats PAC but other than that I want to see PAC beaten first because frankly...he keeps on winning
     
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