Will Parker do significantly better against Wilder than Szpilka, Washington and Molina?

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Will Parker do significantly better than Szpilka/Washington/Molina

Poll closed Dec 21, 2023.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. ILikeBoxingForRealz

    ILikeBoxingForRealz Active Member Full Member

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    Artur had relatively good success vs Wilder until the bomb hit. Molina and Washington not so much. He will do better then molina and washington
     
  2. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Szpilka did the best in terms of going rounds + winning rounds, though Washington won a much higher proportion of rounds for as long as it lasted. The guy that did the most damage however was Molina and he went as many rounds as Szpilka. So you can make arguments for all of them. I expect Parker to be in this tradition, or failing that the Stiverne 2, Breazeale and Helenius tradition.
     
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  3. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    Gerald won 3 first rounds and probably we can say easy that he schooled Wilder here. That was even more funny because Deontay said before that fight that he train only left hand almost half of the year so he show on this fight new quality :nonono

    Szpilka looks pretty damn good with Wilder fight and Wilder got big problem with him but on rounds it was even. Yes Wilder looks worse but Artur will not win fight like that. That's why he and his corner decide to attack more which is possibile very big mistake. Szpilka without going soo agresive forward probably can last 12 rounds and dont have that tragic situation with hospitalize.
     
  4. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sure, yeah.

    Parker hasn't won a single top 10 worthy fight since Ruiz himself, and perhaps then undefeated Hughie Fury. He lost to Joshua, he lost to Whyte, he lost to Joyce.

    By the end of 2022 Ruiz was rated #5 because he beat the fellow (somehow) rated contender in Luis Ortiz—man ranked by the magazine numerous years in a row, and somebody who was rated above Parker annually in '22. Case closed.

    Parker ended the year as #8. We can presume the Ring included past merit all the while (Parker being a titlist; Ruiz beating Joshua.) Recently he was bumped to #5. Names he is above now: Hrgovic (undefeated, the man who beat their #4 Zhang and took McKean's 0 recently) and Joyce, who is now #8 (dropped from #4 after the Zhang losses, which is understandable, but apparently past merit of beating Takam, Dubois, and Parker does not apply here.) Parker must have done something truly noteworthy to be ranked as the best heavyweight in the world behind Usyk, Fury, Wilder, Joshua, and Zhang. Ah yes. He beat Jack Massey, Faiga Opelu, and Simon Kean.

    Parker being reportedly offered Zhang and Dubois fights first would debunk said accusations, but who really knows what going on behind the scenes. Bought, negotiated, or handed quid pro quo rankings are an old story. Nothing unusual for promoters, sanctioning bodies, and in my opinion the Ring. One only needs to take a look at their #7 in Jared Anderson.
     
  5. TheWizard

    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    No. I think people are gonna be shocked at how quickly Parker gets sparked here.
     
  6. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Which is why the metal gymnast, NEET/Redbeard is going life and death to get behind Parker…

    Child like approach - Build up every post to make Parker dangerous and then when he gets stopped, proclaim that Wilder is an ATG, biggest puncher in history blah blah blah

    The overarching goal is to prop up Fury for beating Wilder.
     
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  7. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    IMO, this will likely be Parker's last hurrah as a possible top 5 contender. He needs this win to keep his name form being a mere gatekeeper.

    That said, not sure how his punch resistance is now. Then again, it's not like Wilder has an iron chin. Two KO losses prior to one round with Helenius.

    Rooting for Parker, he's more skilled than most of Wilders 'bum of the month club' title defenses. But him getting sparked is not out of the realm of possibilities.
     
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  8. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Parker can win this

    But he must be absolutely at the top of his game
     
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  9. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I reckon if Parker works on getting on the inside to launch that uppercut of his Wilder will have a rough night. Possibly taking him out between 7-10.

    If Wilder is successful at keeping his distance, works on his jab to set up that right consistently, then he'll win a late TKO or decision.
     
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  10. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    YES!

    Would love to see the uppercut against Wilder
     
  11. John Dupee

    John Dupee New Member banned Full Member

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    I agree with this. Wilder has been so inactive for years, and he's older now. He's taken a couple of beatings. Physically and psychologically he might not be the same. Parker came in swinging against Joyce but was outclassed. Let's see.
     
  12. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Parker hasn't won a single top 10 worthy fight since Ruiz himself"

    Chisora briefly snuck into the Ring rankings around the time of the Parker fights. And contenders like Bakole, Sanchez and Makhmudov are fighting no one while not even being as active as Anderson, so it's hard to promote them too much.

    "By the end of 2022 Ruiz was rated #5"

    Yes, Parker-victim Ruiz. But both he and Ortiz are inactive, Ortiz lost his last fight to Ruiz and contender Joyce has lost two in a row by devastating KO. And Whyte failed a drug test. Parker by contrast has had three fights this year, two of which were fairly impressive early KO's (given the expectations). So it's not rocket science how former titlist Parker is rated 6th, even if one can quibble with it.

    Most didn't think Hrgovic beat Zhang so there's an asterisk over that win. McKean was a cherry that Hrgovic made hard work of and fighting *Mark De Mori* isn't helping Hrgovic's case either. That's an utterly rancid fight, whereas everyone else on the card is fighting someone substantially better at minimum.

    "Parker being reportedly offered Zhang and Dubois fights first would debunk said accusations"

    Parker's in the mix for big fights, someone like Joshua-conqueror Ruiz is not. Hence Parker just made a fight with former 10 consecutive defence WBC champ Wilder, while everyone else (Fury, Wilder, Zhang) is accusing Ruiz of pricing himself out.
     
  13. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "we can say easy that he schooled Wilder here"

    Then he got stopped in the 5th while doing minimal damage...

    When will they learn?
     
  14. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Fixed
     
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  15. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The fact Molina went 9 rounds with Wilder is shocking, has got to be Deontay’s worst performance during his title reign. Duhuapas was rubbish and wouldn’t have lasted anywhere near as long with the version of Wilder that fought Fury. I think Deontay has better fundamentals now and I can see a mid-round stoppage against Parker. It’s still shocking that this could be Wilder’s first win against a top 10 guy who isn’t over 38 years old and on heart medication.
     
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