Will Paul Williams duck Sergiy Dzinziruk?

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  1. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joke or not those are the people ranking the fighters and because he is so low they wouldnt likely mover Williams high on the p4p list based on that....And to be honest he beat Santos in a close fight but Santos has been a hotter fighter, and since then has beatten the better fighters of the two.
     
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  2. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    oh great day in the morning , williams haters will go to any lengths to throw dirt on williams .. How in the hell can you duck someone when you just made your debut at the weight 2 days ago.
    Williams stitches have not even healed and already he's being called a ducker.
     
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  3. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    ANYBODY CAN CALL OUT ANYBODY...JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY NO TO THE FIGHT DONT MEAN THAT YOUR SO CALLED "DUCKING." LIKE I SAID DZINZ BRINGS NOTHING MORE THAN ANOTHER TOUGH FIGHTER TO THE TABLE...BEAT SOME GOOD FIGHTERS AND THAN CALL OUT PAUL...DONT FORGET THAT VERNO WAS ONLY STOPPED 1 TIME IN 1988 IN HIS 5TH FIGHT...GIVE PAUL THE CREDIT AND PLEASE DONT SAY HES "DUCKING" IF HE TURNS DOWN THE FIGHT..THATS JUST BEING STUPID
     
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  4. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't say he did duck him I asked if he will. Respond to what I actually write not what you imagine.

    Paul Williams and his team made this question legitimate along with Kellerman when they framed him as the most feared man, the most ducked man. We haven't found anybody recent who can live up to this title, not Margarito not Mayweather. Neither man is a career ducker by any means, but neither man had the boxers of the world living in fear.

    Sergiy has deflated Kellerman's latest balloon....unless Williams and company quickly respond.
     
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  5. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, you can't present yourself as a guy that is frustrated by the lack of willingness of opponents when you have someone as dangerous and highly ranked as Sergiy - and more proven - or at least in the same league as - Williams although less famous in the USA - willing to fight you - and in the USA.

    This isn't like some unknown untested unproven nobody - if it was I would agree with you.
     
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  6. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My definition of the truly most feared guy that nobody will fight is a guy that fights the best out there even if its not the most famous guy or he doesn't stand to make the most money, just to prove his point. A guy that takes those fights and wins those fights convincingly, and thus, gets everybody in his weight class and near it running a million miles in the other direction.

    Margarito ducked him. True. That is one guy who had a lot to lose. One guy alone doesn't get you Most Feared Man status. Same thing with Margo when he was proclaiming it about himself. Mayweather ducking him, avoiding him, just plain not fighting him, whatever you want to call it, doesn't give him the title either.

    It just seems that nobody has been able to live up to the talk as of yet. Williams has an opportunity to keep the myth alive. But will he take it? Fighting Sergiy and winning convincingly, or barring that, another similarly dangerous guy, is living up to your own words, not doing that, isn't.
     
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  7. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Williams on fighting Dzinziruk;

    “Of course, that would be my next move. I know he's good fighter. I heard he gets paid well out there, so I might have to take a trip to Germany. You can be the best dog in your town, but when you go out of town and start whooping on people, then you are the best dog,”

    Williams seemingly has no problem fighting Dzinziruk
     
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  8. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, it was Williams who actually brought him up first a little while back. I am assuming you are going from that old quote or is this something new? Now that Sergiy has responded in full, I look forward to see what Williams says.
     
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  9. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People get so sensitive about the word ducking when its a fighter they like, but don't mind propping up said guy as installing fear in and being "ducked" by everyone else, a complete double standard.

    Maybe we should coin a new phrase. Will the so called most "unfought" guy "unfight" this challenger?
     
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  10. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Williams want big names.
     
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  11. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And I'm inclined to say ... Yes, you are a pathetic, Margarito-nuttick, Williams hater... :good
     
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  12. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Right now there is no reason to think he'll duck him. Only people who want to believe or HOPE he ducks him. If he chose Santos, Forrest, Ouma, or even Spinks over Dzinziruk, I certainly would not say he's ducking anyone @ 154.
     
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  13. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he will DEFINITELY NOT duck him...if the public wants it then he will fight him...he won't and shouldn't fight him for no money...this guy should fight in america first...has he fought anyone?
     
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  14. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    because DUCK is to imply he is afraid...PW is surely not afraid of anyone..he wants big names and big moey so if this guy wins a big fight and becomes a name he will fight him...if not he will fight someone the public wants to see him fight
     
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  15. jeffradka

    jeffradka Active Member Full Member

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    Probably, but only because who the **** cares about that guy. He has no appeal what so ever to a mainstream market. Albeit it would be a good fight for the hardcore fan but come on, who has really ever seen this guy fight? He may be a belt holder, and undefeated, but hes just not what Paul Williams is looking for right now. No one will give him credit if he wins, just like all the detractors arent giving him credit for his last three outings. PW needs a name and quick (well as quick as that cut can heal at least).
     
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