Will Pavlik go to top 10 pound per pound list if he beat Taylor?

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  1. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Obviously Taylor went to top 10 by beating Hopkins 2x with close decision.
    Will the same happen with Pavlik if the beat decisively Taylor?
     
  2. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    It all depends on the outcomes of the fights coming up with Calzaghe-Kessler, Cotto-Mosley, Barrera-Pacquiao 2, Marquez-Vazquez 2, and Marquez-Barrios. Pavlik might find his way into the top 10, but he might not.
     
  3. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Probably yes!
    He has an American passport.This makes him -automatically-a hot prospect for a 10 pound per pound list.
    Well,apart from Miranda he hasnt beaten any known name,and in terms of quality opponents he cant hold a candle to his rival Arthur Abraham,but....hey,he has an American passport.
    Much more important than any real skills in the paid ranks!
    boxingtalk ranks Wilson at 7 at cruiser weight.Why? He has an American passport.It doesnt really matter than he lost to Cora,Tokarev,and Purlette,and that Tokarev beat both Wilson and Cora,but was schooled in his last fight by huge cruiser weight talent Huck who.................is ranked at nr.9 by boxingtalk.Funny,eh! Well,Huck isnt the owner of a piece of paper called American passport.
     
  4. tpuz

    tpuz Active Member Full Member

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    I think if Pavlik wins decisively, then he definitely should be in the top 10p4p. Taylor, Wright, Hopkins, DeLahoya, Mayweather are all very close to eachother, so if Pavlik wins big, then you could argue that he is better than all of these guys.
     
  5. H .

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    Doubtful, Taylor accomplished a lot by defeating Hopkins twice. Nowadays, Taylor hasn't been impressive, it's almost expected that Pavlik will win.
     
  6. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    You say that these websites and Ring Magazine are biased towards people with American citizenship, but you are the exact same way on the other side of the spectrum (with European fighters). Pavlik is every bit as good as Arthur Abraham talent wise, but he just hasn't accomplished as much.
     
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  8. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    By saying no do you want to tell that either Hopkins was much better than
    Taylor as the champion or that Taylor was better than Pavlik as the contender?
     
  9. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    He would not have done enough, but he would acquire some of Taylors recognition.
     
  10. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A win over Taylor would certainly put him on the porch, but not in the door.But I think Taylor beats him anyway.
     
  11. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    If he knocks out Taylor, then yes- because two guys everyone had top 5 P4P didn't beat JT...if Pavlik KO's him, I don't see how you can leave him off the top 10 list.

    Granted, I think any kind of list like that has to be taken with a grain of salt because half the rankings are old guys fighting amongst each other without giving the young lions a shot to prove they belong, but going by those rules...Pavlik should be top 10-ish if he stops Taylor.
     
  12. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A win over Taylor would certainly put him on the porch, but not in the door.But I think Taylor beats him anyway.
     
  13. Jose FM

    Jose FM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :good
     
  14. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    I think he's just on the outside. He's probably not even top 20 P4P at this point, you don't just jump into the top 10 P4P just because you beat the champ in your division, a top 10 fighter in your weight class and a bunch of journeymen.
     
  15. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But who did Taylor beat before Hopkins to be at the lever which guarantee him the top 10?