Will SSM take a career ending beating from Canelo?

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  1. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    In my opinion, yes. He has never looked spectacular at 154 and in his last fight he looked shocking at the weight. If the Latin Snake had any power he would have KO'd Shane. Canelo has every advantage and i can just see him bullying SSM into submission and stopping him.

    I forsee a very sad fight
     
  2. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Shane knocks him out.

    Upset of the year, called by SJS19.
     
  3. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    anyone who sees mosley beating canelo has zero basis for such a prediction. shane mosley never looking good at 154 + strong, young, confident canelo alvarez = bad loss for mosley, not to mention, it's not like mosley will look to outbox canelo, he'll try and fight with him straight up, which spells doom for mosley seeing that he's 40 and has no power of note past 147. all of the attributes that made mosley one of my favorite fighters ever have diminished drastically, except his chin and heart, and adding the fact that the fight is at 154 pounds to the equation dissolves any shot he would've had at beating canelo.
     
  4. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have a basis as always :D
     
  5. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    not if you think mosley beats him you dont, nothing substantial
     
  6. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    I was thinking the same but then I think back to the Matthew Hatton fight.

    Hatton is a tough tough kid and he further got my respect after being ****ed over by Canelo at the weigh in but still continuing ahead with the fight.. in which he proved a lot of people wrong.

    Now Shane has a solid beard and is still a better fight than Hatton, I can't see Canelo blasting him out.
     
  7. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    I hope it is a career ending fight for Shane, but more of a realisation than a beatdown. I just hope Shane can save face and last the distance, he has the chin to do so but he's been close to corner quitting recently and Nazim will be looking to protect his fighter.
     
  8. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Canelo is improving well, but don't think he's on Mannys level much less Floyds. He still makes foolish mistakes like dropping his guard when he gets frustrated and Mosley can still make him pay for that. He can't look past Mosley. I think he wins by UD most likely Mosley might be in survival mode and at most if things get real nasty for Shane maybe a corner retirement. But most likely a UD for Canelo.
     
  9. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I get the feeling that this fight is all about "Can Canelo be the first to stop Mosley?" That is the only question, and I wouldn't be surprised to see a corner or ref stoppage with Mosley on his feet.

    It will be sad, but it might be just what Mosley needs. Maybe an embarrasing loss will finally convince him to retire.
     
  10. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I really do :D

    Forget about Shane Mosley at first, let's break down Canelo's flaws.

    He fights his age. This means he is inquisitive when it comes to trying new things when his purpose would be much better served if he'd just go and attack his opponent. An Example : He tries to use a sholder roll without much success, it shows what's good and what's bad about him. He wants to learn, to improve and perfect his craft, but in a paid prize fight is not the place (He'll learn to pick his spots through experiance.) Curiosity killed the cat.

    Secondly, he can be frustrated by use of movement and angles, not fancy footwork but efficient steps which the opponent can use to change the dynamic of the exchange. Example : See Alfonso Gomez fight. The little Mexican kept stepping to his right while moving laterally which lead to him having moments with Alvarez, that fight would of been very intresting if Gomez was a little bigger and had better pop. Mosley showed in the Pacquaio fight, he still has good footwork and reasonable foot speed.

    Thirdly, Alvarez can be hit. He comes forward and does leave himself open. In the Kermit Cintron fight, he had a gun shy fighter infront of him and walked straight into a glancing right hand. It did wobble him, yet Cintron was just glad of the reprive, and did not follow up to the body as he should have.

    Let's look at a few mental aspects too

    Alvarez knows he needs to impress in order to stake his claim for a fight with Mayweather. He may come out more intent on destroying Mosley than is wise, if he is too aggressive then he will leave even more holes than usual.

    Also, Alvarez grew up watching Mosley. There will be a respect there. If Alvarez feels compasion, or hesitates Shane may well clock him.

    Now a point or two about Shane.

    He knows the position he's in. This is do or die. If he loses to a 21 year old kid then this is the end. Alot of you think Mosley won't punch. Ask yourself as a man; it's your last chance, your legacy, your earning potential which effects your loved ones lifes, and your pride are all on the line, this is it now or never. I'd punch, you would too and so will Shane.

    Shane has made a career of beating Mexican fighters, if he needs a confidence boost then that must give it to him. 'I've done this before, so many times, for my future, I must do it once more.'

    I know I'm picking the upset, I'm banking on Alvarez not being as good as alot of you think, and on Mosley finding one last performance inside himself.

    Time will tell.
     
  11. Hook!

    Hook! Proud member of team G. Full Member

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    my vcash will be on SSM for sure
     
  12. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    beating? yes. Career ending? if he knows what is good for him.
     
  13. twenty1

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    Nice breakdown.
     
  14. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    all of the physical aspects as to why shane might win are moot to me simply because shane cannot punch at 154, simply has no significant power at the weight, and because I dont see him giving any angles whatsoever in that fight. the last time I saw angles from him were against a stationary antonio margarito, years ago at 147. he's looked utterly shot since other than the shots he pulled out against mayweather, at 147.

    the mental aspects are up in the air, canelo may or may not have respect for shane, shane may be highly motivated because of his track record with mexicans and the fact that he's up against the wall, but the fact that it's at 154 and that he's 40 may simply allow him to grit his teeth and take a a 36 minute long pounding, versus a shorter pounding.
     
  15. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    Shanes biggest problem is that he can no longer pull the trigger and i cant see him being able to keep Canelo off him for 12 rounds. Someone mentioned Shane looking for an out in passed fights... he wanted to quit against Pac and wasnt allowed and Nazim might actually listen to him this time if he is taking too many right hands. People forget the Shane that fought Pac and Floyd was at 147... at 154 he is about half as good again and Canelo is a huge Jr Middleweight