will the crowds of DKSAB fans disperse after Wlad beats Fury ?

Even if he were to win, can you really not give credit to Father Time for actually winning the bout?

Just saying... how old is Wlad now? 38? 39? The man is ripe to be taken out in regard to boxing age. When guys lose at that age, I don't hold it with much weight. It's a young man's game.

 

I believe Wlad is 39.

Wlad is past prime but not shot yet so of course Tyson deserves credit. Wlad looked good against Pulev though Pulev fighting like an idiot but Jennings who moved well made Wlad look like an old man well I guess he is.

 

No ones hyping up fury, he's a Glass Jaw fraud. If Wlad can't deal with this clown easily then he should retire.

 

The point being, at 39 years of age, it can quickly go from "he looked good his last outing" to "damn, he looks shot" in 1 fights time. Wlad just hasn't had to fight anybody good enough to force the issue. (Just IMO, the talent in the HW division just isn't there)

I would also mention that boxing as a whole, lacks the fundamentals and talent it once did. i.e - There is no way champions would be holding on to titles at these ages in previous eras. There was an excellent breakdown by a poster here who showed the average ages of champions from 30 years ago, compared to today. Very revealing.

 

I dont.

It is the case in america, boxing surely is dying there but in other places in the World, hell no.

 

The average age of champions would disagree with you. It's clearly older than previous eras, and it's due to a lack of young lions to challenge the older ones. This is a young man's game.

Wlad would be completely finished as a HW in previous eras at the age of 39. That has nothing to do with "being American," and everything to do with "boxing history."

 

What does that have to do with anything? The top dogs in the heavyweight division would be older, hence due to more experience, the young ones are working their way up. Fury, Joshua, will probably reach their peak at their 30's as well. And LOL at the idea that Wlad would get beat in other eras, the top 5 today would be number one in any era from the 30's to the 80's. Competition improves, so does the number of available people to choose from. Americans see no success in the heavyweight division, and assume it is weak. Take off your blinders and be realistic. America is done at heavyweight, forever....:yep Boxing is a growing sport world wide, it is even growing in popularity in Eastern Europe. There is more competition now due to the fall of the iron curtain. :deal

 

in an alternate universe, maybe. in a universe similar to Bizarro-an alternate world in the old Superman comics--it could happen. this would prove Hawkings theory also.

 

The point was: Even if Wlad loses at this stage, it is due to age. Father Time is watching closely and he's undefeated. It wouldn't be any indication for Fury "being great," it would be more of an indication that "Wlad is finished." And as I said, in a tougher era he would already be finished.

The fact you're saying these guys are working their way up their "peak" in their "30's" just makes my point for me regarding how this era just doesn't have the talent of previous ones. That goes for all weight divisions.

Mayweather would have been knocked off long ago as well.


Guys "back in the day," came into the game with better fundamentals and more importantly, more amateur/overall boxing experience. Wlad is a great example. Huge amateur program background. He has the tools and fundamentals that many guys do not have today.

You can't come into boxing at age 20, because you washed out of another sport, and think you're going to beat a guy like Wlad, Floyd, etc. There is no substitute for experience.

I know people take it as a "diss on Wlad," and that isn't my intent. He's an excellent boxer in his own regard, but let's just be realistic for a minute: The man wouldn't be champion of anything in boxing, at the age of 39, in previous eras. That is due to the lack of talent in boxing today. Same goes for Floyd Mayweather.


Just my opinion, and my evidence is the average age of current champions today vs the past. "Peak" used to be like 28.... not 30s. Fighters are on their way down in the 30s. 34-36 they are finished "historically speaking."


So as my original point said: I wouldn't put too much stock into the win even if Fury pulled it off. It would be Father Time winning the bout in my view.

 

Tyson Fury is gonna win by any means necessary. Tyson Fury was born and bred to fight, the jab and grab will not work on him. 10-24-15 a new era of Heavyweight boxing will emerge with Tyson Fury reigning as the new King. And dont you forget that Terryesb told you that. I don't wanna hear any excuses.

 

Your opinion is not based off reality. Like anything in this world, things improve, there is a larger population of available boxers to choose from. Back in the day the United States held almost 100 percent of the boxing titles, they literally had the SUPERIOR boxing infrastructure, while the rest of the world was backwards. Now with the fall of the iron curtain, and with many nations improving on their boxing foundation, the world has CAUGHT up. There is also a larger population of people to choose from, and athletes today are superior and more athletic/intelligent. Champions are starting to become superior, hence they can keep their title longer well in to their 30's, and the only way to get the title would be to have more experience, and thus fight for the title at times in to your 30's. Boxers are just taking longer to reach for the title, because of the number and level of opposition they choose before challenging a champion.

I would also like to add that fighters today are not competing 10 times a year, they are fighting 2-3 times a year, which is why it takes longer for them to compete for the title, which is another reason why many compete and win a title in to their 30's.

 

Indeed Mirkof, todays athletes are far bigger stronger and more powerful than past generations.

 

With the exception being the Heavyweight division. Besides the Klitschko's the HW division for the last 10 years has been nothing but fat, out of shape Americans and Eastern Europeans. Lots of whom would be Cruiser's if they were actually in shape.

 

I would also like to add that fighters today are not competing 10 times a year, they are fighting 2-3 times a year, which is why it takes longer for them to compete for the title, which is another reason why many compete and win a title in to their 30's.