Will the media recognise Ricky Hatton as the P4P#1 should he defeat Pac?

Outboxing him over 12 rounds ranks less than catching him cold in the 1st round? The former would be a much bigger achievement in my book.

 

He turned Mayweather down 7times prior to 2007, Ray Hatton said as much on 5Live, basically saying they were waiting for the fight to be big enough and bring in enough money to make it worthwhile. If I could be assed I could find a source, but I can't.

What the hell your fellow yorkshireman, here's some quote's


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"But now Ricky has gone up to the top level with Tszyu and got the big win, there's no-one I wouldn't put him in with and not feel confident that he'd beat."

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That's b o x i n g t a l k

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. If Hatton's people aren't ready for the fight (for good reason), why all the Hattonmaniacs act like Floyd is avoiding him is beyond me. Floyd is superior to Hatton in every way save for power, but in boxing speed is power and Mayweather speed advantage is so drastic that it would wind up becoming what Floyd would describe as easy work. Hatton versus Cotto or Castillo are the fights I want to see.

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Coyote Duran: I can see how that would work in the end but you'd think now that Ricky Hatton would feel like he was wasting his time against a Carlos Maussa since he beat the real champion.

Frank Warren: I would've thought so. I mean, prior to that fight,

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To me, it's a belt and I can understand, as a fighter, that he'd want that belt, but let's be honest about it. Kostya Tszyu vacated that title and Ricky Hatton beat Kostya Tszyu. So, on the same list as Joe Calzaghe, he was the #1 by Ring magazine. Who cares about that (WBA belt)?

Coyote Duran: Right. Hatton doesn't need Maussa's belt. He's the man.

Frank Warren: I agree with you! I agree, but I was willing to make the fight. I spoke to Pat English (of Main Events). We had agreed terms for the fight and in the meantime, Pat English was advised not to deal with me and that I couldn't deliver Hatton.

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Mayweather’s search for a follow-up opponent makes one wonder if there weren’t some top boxers voting in the ESPN News poll. Willing to give up weight and travel to fighter’s home towns, he still couldn’t find an opponent. Ricky Hatton, the only 140-pounder left that might challenge Mayweather, instead signed to fight Carlos Maussa

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. There was talk of a bout with Miguel Cotto, but nothing ever materialized. Having essentially cleared out Light Welterweight with just his reputation, Floyd began looking elsewhere.


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Kostya Tszyu isn't sure he'll fight again.

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Oscar De La Hoya

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has mentioned Mayweather, but said he won't consider him until late 2006.

That's around the time when Top Rank promoter Bob Arum said he'd be willing to put young and promising Miguel Cotto

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in against Mayweather.

There were others, including undisputed welterweight champion Zab Judah, but they couldn't come close to contract terms.

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He is on record as removing himself from mandatory status from Corley, Judah, Harris and Mitchell

 

Please don't use Warren as a source, he obviously has a nice big bias after Ricky dropped him. Warren is the reason alot of British boxers get no where fast. So for him to say he offered him all those fights is just bull.

 

Thanks for those!

 

lol, i may have only joined this forum in 2005 but i've been in to boxing a lot longer than that, in fact i can remember your avatar you used to have of you posing in the mirror looking like an advert off a gay dating website, so i'm guessing i was watching fights when you were in nappys you kretin. so i'm hardly a noob as you call it.

but that's beside the point. So hatton ducked all those fighters but went out of his way to fight koysta, that's hardly the actions of a "ducker" is it? in fact you are allways going on about hatton ducking witter, and yet when did witter first fight a top 10 fighter (besides the very embarrasing fight against judah)?

 

i said myself that he turned down pbf earlier in this thread, 7 times is an exageration, but i heard ot was three times, becuase he wanted to build a name in the US before facing him and generate more money which he did.

 

Umm the only Avatars I've had are my current and Charmaine Sinclair, pay attention. I may come across as biased against Hatton and paint him in a negative light, but I know my **** and never make things up. And if I wanted to debate in favour of Hatton I'd do a damn site better than the Hatton huggers on here :yep

I wouldn't say Hatton ducks everyone, he just doesn't take risks unless he is massively compensated and avoids higher risk fights that are low risk. If he can fight a low risk knockover opponents and make the same money as a potentially exciting fight he will do.

As for Witter he doesn't sell many tickets so he doesn't have the luxury of choosing his opponents, but as you asked he fought the following top10ers: Kotelnik, Ndou, Harris, Corley and Bradley. Morua wasn't top10 but beat Maussa.

Hatton and Witter have only had 1 common opponent, Lauri, Hatton took him out in 5, Witter in 2

 

lol, ok i'm confusing you with someone else then. as far as risk v reward that applies to near enough all boxers don't it?

 

I was asked for evidence and provided.

Ray Hatton said on 5Live '5-7 times' (either 5 or 7 I forget), Ray Hatton himself said this, its not a secret

Think about it though, just in terms of dates there are at least 4 offerings from the Mayweathers. First time was for Mayweather May 2004 date (FMJ wanted Hatton as a tune up), second time was November 2005 (FMJ wanted Hatton or Cotto for this date), third was April 2006 (FMJ wanted a replacement for Judah who just lost, tried to get Hatton and even tried to get Margarito who had a PPV to fight ), fourth was for the November 2006 date which eventually became Baldomir.

If you were on these boards back then and read them daily you'd have read about these.

 

I wouldn't place him higher than 5 if he beats Pac!

 

Yes it does, I've just found the way Hatton does it as overly synical. I used to be a Hatton fan but got ticked off with him not giving the fans the best fights, he just came across as dishonest, this was years before he stepped up to face Tyszu. I always wanted to see Hatton-Witter, and it was first on the plate in 2000. He came out with every excuse in the book to fight lesser fighters, only 2 fighters he fought were any better

As a person I don't dislike him, hes likable enough, as a fighter hes top class, partly because of his excellent stamina. But he is overrated by Brits and underrated by Yanks

 

No chance, i'm a Brit and a big Ricky fan but you can't become the best p4p off the back of one fight. He needs to follow it up with another big win or two against top quality opposistion (Marquez, Mosley, Mayweather) Should definitely get him back in the mix but probably 5th or 6th depending on how good he looks.

 

I think the p4p status is mostly crediting the smaller guys who beat the bigger opponents.
Wlad Klitchko wouldn't be considered #1 p4p if he KO PAC and so Hatton will not be since he is the bigger guy.
However if Hatton beat Mosley instead PAC it would be a legitimate case for him to be #1 or #2 p4p
..... depending on PAC's status at the same time.

 

I already have him higher than Pac and Marquez :good

 

How? Why?