Will the mma vs boxing war continue....and if so

I don't think you get it. A prime in shape Toney would at least have a puncher's chance. He might win 2 out of every 10 bouts against a prime Couture. Conversely, a prime Couture couldn't win 1 in 1000 bouts against a prime Toney.

 

By continue do you mean will there always be a group of people that compare the two, and will continue to argue one is better than the other? If so, then yes it will continue.

Now, will it be relevant? That is another question all together.

 

You guys must havent heard of Jeremey Williams??? I think he's repping boxing quite well in MMA.

 

I thought that Toney looked in the best shape that I have seen him in years. Also I think that Mercer has been beaten several times by MMA's including Kibo slice who couldn't make in the UFC. This is a totally different sport If a mixed martial Artist chooses to stand there and trade punches they will probably get knocked out. But that is not what the sport calls for donot get that upset. I believe that a boxer that can fight from the outside will have a better chance.

 

jerome labanner who is in one of the posted videos is undefeated as a pro boxer if im not mistaken

 

No no...you truely don't get it...it's more wishful thinking on your part.

Look , i'm not saying that boxers are totally incapable under different rules. I'm just telling you....realistically...how things usually work.

Here's the thing..

We once had an olympic gold medalist in Judo...a living legend of Judo.
6 time gold winner , Nastula.

Link:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pawe%C5%82_Nastula[/url]

Now , maybe you're wondering why i'm talking about a judoka instead of a boxer. Because both have one thing in common. They're specialists in one particular discipline... EVEN a super experienced judoka will struggle in MMA IF he doesn't know anything else..

A wrestler..will also struggle in MMA..If the only thing he knows is wrestling.

The same **** goes for every participants..whether we're talking about boxers , judokas , wrestlers , kickboxers...

My point ? If a boxer is ever gonna prove everyone wrong (not just winning a bunch of fights here & there) but being a serious challenge & potential condender....No matter who he is...Mayweather , Pacquiao , Klitschko , Adamek , Haye... They'll have to get with the program.

Learn sub defense, learn takedown defense , learn basics in grappling ( wrestling )...

It's the only way. If you're counting on a "lucky punch"...Even if you manage to land it...You'll end up losing more fights in the end...odds will be against you.


The "if they kept it on their feet" scenario cnt work on the long run. If a boxer is ever gonna prove a point or take the whole thing seriously...he'll have to do some drastic changes.


In DAVID HAYE 's own words:

“Six months of training isn’t going to be enough. As a UFC fan, I know two or three years wouldn’t be enough. How many times has Toney sprawled in his life? 500? How many leg kicks has he taken in his life? 300? How many Kimura attempts has he defended? 140? Even if he’s done double that amount, he wouldn’t have nearly the experience needed to win a UFC fight.”

“I know from training in MMA myself that the wrestling aspect ruins your punching power,” he reveals. “After a minute of grappling, your arms, back and shoulders fill with blood and even if you then find space to throw punches, your power is suddenly crap."

“And I hit a lot harder and I’m so much faster than James, and I couldn’t land a punch on fighters when all they wanted to do was take me down to the ground. James is a much more static fighter than I am, and is going to get thrown on his back immediately by Randy. I admire Toney’s spirit and boxing skills. But he’s delusional here.”

 

lol at ufc letting this vid go on youtube

 

Brock has a lot of talent. Might of done WWE but he was a 2 time NCAA champ which is in my opinion harder than winning a world title in boxing. Theres so many damn weights in boxing and belts if you have a good manager and promoter you will get one. Wrestling you have 4 years and alot of competition.

 

I would disagree, that the guys involved with BJJ and many of the other disciplines have trained as long as or longer than elite boxers. While "MMA" isn't a discipline within itself, Lesnar has wrestled for years going back to 8th or 9th grade. Many of these Abu Dhabi champions and guys that compete worldwide in discipline specific tourney's etc are highly skilled within their discipline.

 

Boxing has too large of a learning curve.

MMA is junk food entertainment.

Look at how we crucify people even amongst ourselves for making an error related to the history or the art of boxing.

You wanna make it in a boxing community? you better have wikipedia, boxrec, google, youtube all open in your other tabs.

 

Very simple. Wrestling is not MMA. Yes, it's an important part of the sport, but it is still a different sport. Until MMA fighters train only in MMA and pass though a competitive MMA amateur system that includes high level international competition like the olympics, they will never be as good or as skilled as the top boxers. Not a chance.

 

MMA is a discipline itself. That's why there's a burgeoning MMA amateur system. And trust me, in ten years, all of the best MMA fighters will have gone through that system. They won't be coming from kickboxing, wrestling, or judo anymore. They will compete exclusively in MMA.

 

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