Will the UFC's success lead to its failure?

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  1. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Based on what ????
     
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  2. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Based on your inability to read let alone comprehend you **** ****.
     
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  3. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    ^^Silly question either way you look at it.. More reaching and work on that anti-UFC agenda.. With post after posts on The UFC business model, we're lookin' right through you.

    **** Busch, another Brewing company is waiting in the wings.. Busch today, Mickey's during the Spike era.. The UFC will never fail because if they did then that means MMA died.. Which will never happen.
     
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  4. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    What the UFC need to do if they want MMA to be good, is get the Mafia involved. And why do the referees have no earpieces, do Dana and the Fertittas not have instructions they want to convey during the fight? Plus, I'm sick of all these champions defending their belts every fight. I want to see Bones and JDS in more non-title fights, preferably of the freakshow variety. :bart

    :hat
     
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  5. zerodave

    zerodave New Member Full Member

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    I love watching any kind of fights. I ditched boxing about 10 years ago when it got rubbish and too predictable. Then about 7 years ago I discovered MMA and the UFC and loved it but it's getting more and more like WWF Wrestling. Dana White is the new Vince McMahon. the way everything is marketed and promoted is straight from the WWF handbook. the top elite fighters becoming movie stars, the annual computer games, advertising of their own products, then there's the silver vision dvds, figures, toys & other misc. merchandise.

    all the promos are all geared towards promoting the "company or event" rather than to the fighters, the production is vintage WWF. not to mention the ultimate fighter series (which again is from the WWF handbook - i.e. tough enough). The buyouts of Pride & Strikeforce is also just the same as when WWF bought out WCW & ECW.

    That aside the UFC simply can't fail - but I worry people will just get bored and switch off as the production is the same every event! what will the ufc do when that happens & how will it remarket itself?

    There doesn't appear to be anything that will stop them being the leader of MMA - as soon as any other company gets close to competing with the UFC they just buy them out, bankrupt the company and rob them of their fighter rosters.

    scoring system, weight classes, belts - all stolen from boxing!

    it is brilliant though and I'm also back to watching boxing.
     
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  6. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    :thumbsup saved me the keystrokes
     
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  7. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    :roll: Seriously mate get a clue. The UFC has been close to closing it doors at least 3 times. So how on earth can you make such a bold statement like that? The UFC isn't MMA? And MMA is a sport not a brand. So if the UFC ever did fail something else would replace it. There's been umpteen promotions that have tried and failed. That's part of the business and the sport.
    It's a legitimate question. Irrespective of whether you have the capacity to understand it or not. Would appear you don't simply from your response.
     
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  8. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Not Mr current affairs are you..... :lol:

    As for the rest of your post WTF has it got to do with the price of fish? I'm talking about a clear subject topic, and you're blabbering on about a petty comparison with PRIDE. Know nothing Google MMA scholar.
     
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  9. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Not disagreeing with any of this Will. But the UFC isn't responsible per se for the actions of their fighters. In addition the UFC doesn't have the main stream acceptance to be throwing it's might around. I fear it may some day lead to a clash with a much bigger name and the UFC will pay the price. Dana has already fell foul of ESPN when he didn't like a story they ran. Likewise his spat with Showtime is very public. There's a status quo in this business and Dana's abrasive attitude doesn't lend itself to it. There's a big spot light on the promotion and i don't see how it can deal with it in the long term if the effects of what fighters do or say proves to be negative.
    Granted the morality around this all is absurd. But for me there's similar correlations between the David Haye Chisora debacle. In that negative press may hurt the UFC long term or their business.

    The long and short is this issue started because a special interest group called “Alcohol Justice” wrote to all the Anhauser Busch shareholders asking that the company end its ‘Blood Sport’ sponsorship. They said: “We expect upset shareholders at Wednesday’s annual A-B InBev meeting to demand stronger action from the management, perhaps even an immediate end to UFC sponsorship,” said Bruce Lee Livingston, Executive Director/CEO of Alcohol Justice. “Shareholders don’t want to be associated with a bloody sport that denigrates women and the LGBT community.” So Anhauser Busch took this seriously and warned the UFC.
    This tiny special interest group is actively campaigning against the UFC although their reasons aren't that apparent. Either way its apparent that sponsors et al want to see a 'cleaner image'. I'm not sure thats possible with the UFC.
     
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  10. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    The UFC will never fail, crash and burn.. Mark my words.

    I understand what you are driving at, and answered your question.. Your too smart for your own good, and cut Shane Carwin's payout from UFC 116 in half to fit your agenda.

    Where the hell do you get $20k from when every last source out there confirms $40k??
     
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  11. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    I stand corrected. I thought it was 20K. I remember him getting double for a bonus if he won. Matters not as he lost. Either way there's no agenda here Mystic Meg. But the point still stands. It was a paltry amount for the one of the UFC's biggest fights ever or whatever it was billed as. The semantics are irrelevant. But obviously relevant enough for you to pull me up on them...
    You think i'm too smart for my own good....riiight.. just because i don't agree with you? But you're so freaking smart that you can make a claim about the UFC never failing when history has shown this has nearly happened 3 times. What do i know aye ... All i need to do is mark your word....
     
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  12. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    UFC on FOX for the time being.

    The company will be going strong when this contract is up.
     
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  13. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not should Fertita's struggling Casino chain continue to lose money.I suspect much of the UFC dollars are being transferred to Lorenzo's "other" business ventures.
     
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  14. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We all know most of the money isn't going to the fighters. It would be interesting to see how the Fertita's are spending the money they earned for them. I'd just be curious to know if they are spending money on natural erectile disorder remedies. Then we could let Carwin know what Lorenzo spent his money on. Hopefully Carwin knows how he's sending his kids through college. :D

    Seems like he deserves at least that much peace of mind.
     
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