Will there be another H.W champion under 6''0 after Wlad retires?

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  1. BoxerFan89

    BoxerFan89 Active Member Full Member

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    I'm of the opinion that size can be overcome provided the skill is there; case in point, 6''1 220lb David Haye (Haye isn't 6ft 3) defeating 7ft + Valuev.

    I don't think the Klitschko's are dominating because of their size, I think they're dominating because they're just so skilled (hence why Haye lost to Wlad but not Valuev).

    After Wlad retires, what are the chances of a H.W under 6''0 becoming champion?
     
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  2. theanatolian

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    Don't forget 5'11 Chagaev.
     
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    Yeah, he's 5''11 (not 6''1 as he is somehow listed) and he seems WAY more talented than Wilder or Fury.
     
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  4. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In his prime, yes. I don't see why someone as skilled as he's wouldn't become a champion after Wlad.
     
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  5. dinovelvet

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    Valuev could have easily beat Haye if he leaned all over him like Wlad did.
     
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    He wasn't good enough to do it. He was as slow as a slug.
     
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    Povetkin is also 6''2 and is tipped to beat Wilder, who is 6''7.
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    You don't have to be good to do it. You do it because your are not good.
     
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    You need some reasonable ability to counter speed. Tyson Fury for example, would not have been able to do that to Haye.
     
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    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Do what? Lean all over his back piece??

    He wouldn't have needed to.
     
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    Fury would, he'd get smashed.
     
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    He couldn't even smash old man Valeuv at the end of his career and chose to retire rather than fight Fury.

    That tells you everything you need to know about who would get smashed.

    Only the casuals thought Haye had a chance against Fury.
     
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    That's because Valuev has insane bone density; it's very hard to KO someone of that size.

    Most experts had Haye as the favorite; Fury was the underdog of that fight, too slow for Haye.
     
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  14. attaboi

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    Haye would have decapitated Fury.

    What exactly do you see in Fury?

    The guy is basic:patsch
     
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  15. dinovelvet

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    Based on what. Haye wasn't a good heavy weight. Who did he beat?

    He was sluggish against Chisora and not as quick as Fury. The speed from his Cruiser days was long gone.

    He got too bulky. He realized in camp that his time was up. He won't ever be back.

    Fury would have absolutely annihilated him. Haye can't handle pressure on the inside. Certainly not against a 6'9 giant who would have been the best inside fighter he would have faced in his career.

    You no nothing about Haye. Or boxing.
     
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