Will there be another H.W champion under 6''0 after Wlad retires?

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  1. Lady Girl

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  2. Staminakills

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    i dont see how we could have another hw champ thats under 6'. i dont really see any HW out there that can compete and have a shot against Wlad or DW.

    Wlad is on his last legs. for real. he thinks he has 5 more fights, i dont think so. he should retire as passing the torch to DW. DW is ALL so wrong for wlad thats easier and more matter of fact money than it was betting floyd vs paq
     
  3. attaboi

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    Haye was sluggish against Chisora?:huh

    No one ever claimed Haye was some world beat but he would have absolutely destroyed that big oak Tyson Fury with glass chin.

    This idea of Fury being some great inside fighter:lol: you base this off of what? his fight with Chisora?:huh

    You hate Wladimir Klitschko and hope Tyson Fury could be the guy to dethrone him, but I'm sorry to break it to you. It ain't gonna happen. Fury is getting destroyed by Wladimire and it wouldn't be pretty.

    When I say Wladimir will destroyed Fury, let me emphasize on the word "destroy". It means Fury we be on the canvas twitching with paramedics checking to see if he's still breathing.

    The guy is a slow chinless bum can't you get it.:patsch
     
  4. theanatolian

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    Haye pulled out of Charr fight too. Doesn't mean much, does it.
     
  5. dinovelvet

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    Whats Wladimir got to do with anything.

    Why are you side-winding away from the topic?

    Who did Haye ever beat? He was dropped by shot Mormeck, Barret and 168 pounder Lock when they got in close on him.

    Not to mention 40 past prime Thompson who stopped him in 5 rounds. Haye beat nobody of any note in his career. Ever. Not one.

    Fury knows how to land clean on the inside. That much is very clear if you watched him. Haye has zero inside game and zero punch resistance.
    You didn't watch his career. I did. And its very obvious from how he looked pre-fight that he was in no condition to take on a guy like Fury.

    You can go back talking about Wlad again if you have nothing to say to that.
     
  6. theanatolian

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    Nope. Wilder has next to zero chance of beating Wlad.
     
  7. andrewa1

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    There could be a sub 6'0 belt holder one day, but Tyson was the last dominant champ we'll ever see below six feet. Tyson was 1. an absolute genetic freak of nature and 2. came in right before the HW division really got supersized. He struggled a bit with most of the real big guys he did face(Tucker), who were a step lower than today's big time contenders

    There's just too many supersized athletes available to be HW's nowadays, with the Manny Steward blueprint on how to effectively use height available for all, for a comparatively little guy to dominate like before.
     
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  9. BoxerFan89

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    Fury hasn't fought anybody worthwhile; Haye's performance against Chisora was far more impressive than Fury's two lackluster, sluggish wins over him.

    Haye's performance against Valuev beats anything Fury has done. If he was not quick, then why was he able to KO Chisora whereas Fury struggled?

    And being a cruiserweight means jack ****. Evander Holyfield was a cruiserweight and he beat Mike Tyson. All that matters is Haye became a heavyweight.

    Fury has done NOTHING to indicate he can beat Haye.
     
  10. BoxerFan89

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    Tyson struggled against big guys? A 34 year old Mike Tyson utterly destroyed Lou Savarese inside 1 round. Lou Savarese was a Superheavyweight, 6''5 and 242lbs.

    Who has actually used the Manny blueprint? Lewis and the Klitschko's; other heavyweights like Price, Fury and Wilder all struggle to use it. It took YEARS for Wlad to perfect it.

    The Klitschko's are extremely SKILLED, it's not just the size.

    Aside from Wladimir, which heavyweight boxer today would stand a chance against a peak Mike Tyson?
     
  11. attaboi

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  12. BoxerFan89

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    Relevance?
     
  13. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Dino, I'm not attacking you in this, I'm just legitimately curious. If Wlad beats Fury, how can you delegitimize it? You normally discredit his wins based on clinching and leaning by Wlad, but Fury's got a decent size advantage on Wlad, so if Wlad did that, Fury should be able to get the better of that strategy if he was any good.

    I just don't see an easy way for you to delegitimize this one. I guess if its unexpectedly competitive and Wlad wins a close decision, or its stopped debatably quick. But other than that, what can you really argue? Will you just reverse yourself and say Fury was bad after all? Is there any remote possibility you could actually give Wlad (a little) credit for the victory? Again, I'm not attacking you, just honestly curious about it.
     
  14. Lady Girl

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    young prospect with top rank. still hard to see if there is potential there. has a very intriguing style emulating frazier and tyson. i just think he needs a real trainer, thats all
     
  15. dinovelvet

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