Will there ever be a heavyweight championsip fight in this era like Bowe-Holy 1?

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  1. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Is percieved skill even a critera being discussed here?

    Brewster/Liakhovik and Vitali/Lewis both saw strategic adjustments and displayed skill anyway.
     
  2. DrMo

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    Really? :huh

    Moorer-Cooper had more action, more KD's & featured better fighters operating at a higher level.

    That final lead uppercut-cross combo from MM :ibutt
     
  3. JAB5239

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    Boxing is going to survive regardless, but it would be nice from a fans perspective to survive see the champion go to war against a willing rival.
     
  4. The Mongoose

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    -Far more brutal and dramatic. Cunningham was fighting with so much heart, he looked like he was dead in the 5th, to comeback like that and win the fight, incredible. Best display of courage in the HW ring in the last decade at least.
     
  5. Dorfmeister

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    You had plenty of punch-ups even before 1992 with the WBA HW Championship Tim W'spoon vs Tony Tubbs, the WBC HW Championship Tim W'spoon vs Pinklon Thomas, The USBA HW Title Tim W'Spoon vs Bonecrusher Smith, WBA HW Championship Mike Dokes vs Mike Weaver, The Vacant IBF HWT Championship Tony Tucker vs James Buster Douglas.
     
  6. JAB5239

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    Lewis-Vits was in the Lewis era. None of the others were for the true world championship.
     
  7. Bonecrusher

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    I respect your opinion, I however would give the nod to Moorer-Cooper. Moorer and Cooper are a level above Cunningham and Mansour. Before you tell me how pathetic Cooper performed from time to time let me just state that in this moment Cooper was tough as hell. This is the Cooper who broke Mercer's jaw and took him to war.. This is also the Cooper who nearly knocked out the prime unbeaten Holyfield to claim the heavyweight championship. I am recounting on actually being a huge fan during that era, I'm not the newer generation of YouTube boxing fans, I'm pushing 40 and was alive watching all these fights live.. Moorer-Cooper is an amazing short slugfest. I don't believe it's the best heavyweight war of my era though. I'd maybe take Holyfield vs Dokes. In terms of two fighter bouncing one another off the canvas this one is similar to Foreman-Lyle. Both fights are great but I classify them both as short explosive slugfests, where as Holyfield vs Dokes is a much longer sustained war, where in the end Dokes is finally broken by the prime tireless machine which was Evander Holyfield. Your fight Cunningham vs Mansour is actually more comparative in my view to Holy-Dokes than Moorer-Cooper.. Like I said earlier I respect your opinion this just happens to be mine.
     
  8. JAB5239

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    That fight was a brilliant display of body punching, counter punching and heart, far fro anything we've gotten since Lewis-Vits.
     
  9. JAB5239

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    :good
     
  10. The Mongoose

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    I defined "this era" as 2000s. You failed to define era.

    You said Heavyweight Championship fight, not "true."

    My picks stand, unless you want to rephrase your question. Maybe ask the question...you really want to ask.

    Yes. I pointed as much but felt the need to included them as the most exciting fights are usually not at the Championship level.
     
  11. The Mongoose

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    -I'm not really interested in percieved "level" when rating the entertainment value of a fight as long as we are talking world class professional fighters. Cunningham and Monseur were hardly Tough Guy contestants, so Moorer being a much better fighter and Cooper being a bit better doesn't devalue it for me.

    -As am I.

    -Good call out to Dokes/Holyfield, that may be Holyfield's most exciting fight actually. Brutal war. And yes, I agree there and respect your opinion as well.
     
  12. JAB5239

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    :nut
    See post number five and pay more attention please. You have a habit of trying to twist topics.
     
  13. Bonecrusher

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    Best heavyweight fights that immediately pop into my head:
    Holyfield vs Dokes
    Holyfield vs Bowe all 3 fights!!
    Moorer vs Cooper
    Moorer vs Alex Stewart
    Tyson vs Ruddock 2
    Lewis vs Mercer
    Foreman vs Alex Stewart
    Bowe vs Golota 2 mainly for just the pure savagery of the first 3-5 rounds. Both on the canvas and wailing away!
    Mercer vs Cooper
    Only 2 of these are title fights. I could think of plenty more but these few popped in nearly immediately.
     
  14. The Mongoose

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    I responded to the title of your thread, I'm not interested in following your evolving criteria. You have a very very bad habit of that.

    You still say "true Champion of this era" anyway and that included Lewis/Vitali, just ask the question, you really want to ask. Maybe name the one fighter you really want this to be about. The unprovoked racial rant is also uncomfortable and alarming. What are you talking about?
     
  15. The Mongoose

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    Great overlooked fight. Foreman's most exciting of his second career and very underrated.

    I also agree about Bowe/Golota 2, a very savage, brutal, and dangerous fight despite the disappointing ending.