Will there ever be a heavyweight championsip fight in this era like Bowe-Holy 1?

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  1. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The most overlooked fight in quite sometime is Larry Holmes vs Kenny Norton for Norton's WBC HW Championship. In my personal opinion, I reta it above Holyfield vs Bowe I, II & III.

    The savage, brutal and dangerous fight with a somehow disappointing ending was Terrible Tim W'spoon against Frank Bruno who was just 24 years old of age in the Wembley Stadium.
     
  2. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    -Good call, superior to the Norton/Ali fights. Holmes/Weaver is also an underlooked classic.

    -Didn't like that one, Spoon didn't look too good and felt bad for Bruno as he folded again. Great atmosphere though.
     
  3. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    -I didn't say that. I answered that question already. I was commenting on the matches Wlad has had since 2009.

    I already say because Wlad is too dominant. You don't need me to make a point. If there's an opinion you wish to share, nobody is stopping you from posting it.

    -It was in response to you and Dr. Mo lamenting about the overall state of the divsion in this thread, thus on topic.
     
  4. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, the division is awful and the main reason we will never see a fight for the championship as exciting as Bowe-Holy and many others. The other is Wlad willingness to go to war.
     
  5. The Mongoose

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    And your true agenda is revealed as if it was ever a mystery to begin with. No matter how hard you try to put up a charade of indifference it all boils down to your disdain for the Klitschko Brothers and a desire to discredit them on this message board. You've been called out for making so many threads with the word "Klitschko" in the title, I don't blame you for your attempts at subtleness these days.

    I disagree with your opinion.
     
  6. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The era has sucked and that is tough to deny. Anyone with common sense can see that. You can disagree all you want, it doesn't change what the overwhelming majority of fans and experts think. So I'll ask you in this thread to link me to any expert that considers this a strong era? As far as you hollow claim of me bashing Wlad, is that why I consistently call him a top 15 ATG with plenty of time to move up? Or is it because I find him unbearably boring, which again the vast majority agree on? Fact is its the lack of good talented fighters and his unwillingness to go to war anymore as the biggest reasons we'll never see a Bowe-Hloy type war in this era as long as he rules the throne. Does that make him a bad champion? Certainly not. It just means he's not very exciting.
     
  7. SweetSciGuru

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    Not in this era.

    The only fight approaching that was last seen in Ibeabuchi-Tua, two of the best HWs of this era who were side-lined by Klitscho groupie dirty tactics.

    All you have is the Klitschos in this era, and the trade-off is, you have two robot Europeans as champions, but with them, you will never see anything remotely like Ibeabuchi-Tua.
     
  8. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A Bowe/Holyfield caliber fight...in this era! :rofl

    We'd be lucky if we could get a Clay-Bey vs Ettiene caliber fight.
     
  9. The Mongoose

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    -At present I'm enjoying it. Arreola/Stirvenre was even a good fight last Saturday. Cunningham/Mansour was a fight of the year candidate in any weight class, entertained me more than any Pacman or Mayweather fight this year.

    -Jury is out on the present. I don't think I ever lived in an era when the HW divison was called "strong" by these experts as it was happening. I do remember lots of the same tired bitching in the 80s, 90s, and early 00s.

    -You can say that all you want, its a static line you repeat when you get called out for obsessively posting criticisms of him and his brother.

    -I've been around long enough to not whine about such stupid things. Everyone was whining about how boring and unwilling Lewis was, how they missed the old days, and we'll never see a classic HW title fight again...than we get the Vitali fight that will go down as a classic. And I now see these message boards with people mourning this "Lewis Era" as better days...etc. I suspect when Wlad is done, we'll see a similar revisionism.
     
  10. Pimp C

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    I couldn't agree more a skilled brawl is a perfect way to describe both.
     
  11. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The closest you will get to anything in this era is watching the last great HW, Lennox Lewis beating the Borscht out of Vitali Klitscho, but it only lasts for 6 rounds.

    TKO6
     
  12. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So no no links and no answer to any exciting fight on the horizon for Wlad. Exactly as I figured from you. Instead you want to attack me instead of admitting the reality of things. Funny you voted yes yet have yet to explain who and why their will be an exciting heavyweight championship fight in the era I outlined for you. :good
     
  13. The Mongoose

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    -And you won't find any links from any writer in the 70s saying he was living in the Golden Age either. Call me in ten years or more, I'm sure your fat ass will still be here bitching and moaning.

    -Whatever helps you sleep better.

    -God, you are so stupid. As I explained I voted "yes" to your original question and gave the two matches I feel that are in the sphere of Bowe/Holyfield. As usual, you want to change the criteria because you don't like the answers you are getting. I don't have a crystal ball, no way to gauge the entertainment value of fights that have not happened yet or may not ever happen. I don't know who or how but I'm not ruling out the possibility of Wlad never having a hard fight ever again.

    It's not Holyfield/Bowe, but I rather like the Brock fight. Good skills from both men on display, competitive fight, good fast paced action, and a brutal ending. I like it.

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7OieWZgs34[/url]
     
  14. madballster

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    Talent does not produce exciting fights -- actually I think you mean skill but let's not go into that. Regardless, the two have nothing in common. You can have have the most untalented and unskilled fighters give you some of the most entertaining brawls.
     
  15. Scar

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    Definitely not. Because there's no one remotely close to prime Bowe and Holyfield in this God awful division.