Will there ever be another heavyweight champion under 6'?

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  1. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    No we have not evolved....we have been fed more at an early age, allowing our bodies better nutrition and growing better.
    Since the 80s, we have been enriching our cereals with vitamins. Our kids basically eat a a multivitamin with every bowl they eat.
    Hormones in beef and chicken make the livestock grow faster and larger, increasing a farmer's profits, while passing those modifications onto us.
    This is what has been occuring in terms of average HT/WT......
    As for skill and coordination increasing.....we can call it "evolution", but its really our sports science and medicine going deeper and farther into the human body than they were capable of before the MRI and the blood labs. We're immunized against diseases that cause stunting, and loss of coordination. So many medical and training advances since the 50s.

    It's like 2 different worlds.:think
     
  2. chitownfightfan

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  3. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marciano and Tyson never had to compete against tall fighters with talent or at least when Tyson did meet tall fighters with talent he was "exposed". There may have been tall boxers in the past but due to the relatively small number of tall boxers back then their athletic ability and skill were not as great as the contemporary tall fighters. More or less it's like the most athletically gifted and skilled competitor in a field of 3,000 six foot seven 240lb boxer is going to be better than the most athletically gifted and skilled competitor in a field of 200 six foot seven 240lb competitors.

    I'm sure there will be heavyweight champions around 6 feet tall but I don't think they will dominate.
     
  4. Tancred

    Tancred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If the small guy is good enough then why not
     
  5. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think it will happen again at some point. There aren't really that many good giant boxers so I think it's very possible a really, really good short HW could enter the scene and be the best. Yes the short but great Mike Tyson type HW's are rare but so are the tall but great Klitschko type's.
     
  6. Seamus

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    Because the NFL was invented in 1998, right?

    And nowadays, the two back system is in vogue and running backs are a dime a dozen. There wasn't even a running back taken in the first round of this year's draft.
     
  7. aaronpernell

    aaronpernell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Once the klitschkos are out of the mix it is all a muddled mess of average fighters. Could see someone under 6 foot grabbing one of the 4 titles that will be passed back and forth
     
  8. Rock0052

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    Still didn't stop 6'6 Fred Fulton from putting him in the hospital. A tall dude with a piston jab and power's always a tough matchup for a smaller man, even one with exceptional ability like Langford.
     
  9. Ivan

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    I don't think that is possible in the near future. You've got growth hormones everywhere in the foodchain. Whatever meat you eat it is going to be filled with growth hormones that are hundreds of % higher than the norm. Chikens are being grown for 2-3 weeks, pigs and cows are on that crack too. Because of that the new generation would be even taller.

    An we all see that a 6 and 6'1 fighters are seriously disadvantaged to the taller guys. When a 6'' guy fights a 6''7 guy the angle of his shots becomes such that half of the power can't be transfered. So why not move the taller guys to Super HW and give the 5'10-6'1 guys a place where they can actually compeate.
     
  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yea, probably. They get poached real early in their development. Tis a shame.
     
  11. Seamus

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    Yet, the height for the average American male is in decline.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/apr/04/usa
     
  12. damagejackal

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    I see what your saying with regards to size and athleticism,
    But you mainly talk about the advantages of height and reach and neglect to mention about how styles can make the fight.
    Shorter, stockier guys generally have an advantage when it comes to switching leverage between both hands, which means they can throw hard shots from up close (hooks, uppercuts), without having to set their feet as much as a tall fighter would.

    Also, coming in fast and lower is an effective way to maximize the height differential to your advantage.. Tyson did it for most of his career.
     
  13. RememberingC.S.

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    It's not the animal growth hormones that makes peoples grow taller. Growth is stationary in every wealthy region, or even slightly declining, such as for the usa.
    It's just that we are 2 and a half billions more than we was in the '60s, making a bigger pool to taller and more athletic peoples.

    Regarding the making of a superheavyweight division like in the olympics, it will never ever be done.

    Most of the clueless peoples thinks past heavyweghit were as big as today's ones. The creation of a superhw division would immediately disqualify the quality of the "normal" hws, exactly like it would be to consider the cruiserweight, light heavyweight and super middleweights opponents that pad the resume of the golden era boxers as non heavyweights. :deal
     
  14. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In the future height won't matter.

    Boxing matches will be fought by nerds in motion sensor suits in Virtual reality. Heavyweight champion of the world will be 14 year old, 5''5' pimple faced Eugine from Tennessee.
     
  15. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny thing, I expect if there is an immediate dominant heavyweight champion after Klitschko I suspect it will be a guy coming up from the cruiserweight division named Usyk. I think he's around 6'4" but sort of on the thin side, not unlike Zjelko Mavrovic, but unlike Mavrovic, Usyk seems to have more two-handed skills, agility, footwork and power. Usyk's height is consistent with the trend but his overall stature probably isn't what most people expect.