Will Tyson Fury retire now?

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  1. dawz84

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    There's been a lot of chatter about Tyson Fury being past his prime or not living up to the hype. But – for large parts of that fight, Fury was in control, putting on a masterclass. He was dominating, showcasing his skills and showing why he's considered one of the best in the business.

    Now, let's talk about 'that' round. Fury had Usyk on the ropes; he was there for the taking. But instead of going for the kill, Fury seemed to ease off, almost like he thought it was already in the bag or going so easy. It was odd – he stopped those body shots that had been Usyk's kryptonite all night. That hesitation cost him.

    Usyk, on the other hand, knew he needed to step it up. He came out in the next round with a fire in his belly, and it paid off. He caught Fury with a brilliant shot that popped his nose. You could see Fury struggling with it, pawing at his nose, his breathing all over the place. It took him a few rounds to recover, but by then, the momentum had shifted.

    Usyk showed real class and grit. He dug deep, capitalised on the opportunity, and turned the fight around. That standing count sealed the deal. It was a brilliant performance from Usyk, proving once again why he's such a formidable opponent.

    But make no mistake, the rematch is going to be class. That fight was on a knife's edge and could have easily swung the other way. I'm absolutely salivating at the thought of the next encounter. What a show, what a fight.
     
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  2. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    He’ll 100% want the rematch.

    And he’ll need to stop ****ing about showboating and get his clown of a dad out of the corner for it as well.

    He had huge momentum during the middle of the fight and should’ve continued to step it up but he done the opposite and stepped off.

    Paid the price.

    His dad shouting over Sugar Hill in the corner was a circus.
     
  3. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    great post mate pretty much agree with everything
     
  4. Walcott

    Walcott Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk was never in any serious trouble, yes he was buzzed a few times but wasn't close to going over, you must take off your Fury blinkers son.
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree he took it seriously, but he admittedly was having a bit of fun in there, clowning around, showboating. Granted the showboating seemed to be quite effective, but I think his preparation left a lot to be desired. In the early stages he looked very sharp but I think as the fight wore on his concentration became compromised due to fatigue and stamina issues, at least compared to Usyk who was much more economical with his energy output. Tyson for all his skils and style exerts a lot of energy, even in the prefight, whereas Usyk was very cool calm and collected. I think a more docile and focused Fury could do better if he comes in more focused and less as an entertainer. That said, I did find Tyson Fury's antics quite enjoyable to watch and he does make boxing fun, but I do think in the end a slightly more focused and less showboating approach could prove to be the difference between winning and losing.
     
  6. dawz84

    dawz84 Member Full Member

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    Listen, mate, I think you might've missed the point. I did say Fury was putting on a masterclass, dominating the rounds. At times, it almost looked like a mismatch out there. Usyk was clearly struggling with those body punches, and he was ripe for the taking if Fury had just applied more pressure.

    That was the turning point. Fury backing off when he was dominating gave Usyk the chance to dig deep and capitalise, especially after that nose pop. It was an incredible moment in the fight. Usyk showed amazing resilience and heart, turning the tide when it mattered most. That's what made it such an extraordinary bout.
     
  7. Walcott

    Walcott Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, Usyk regrouped like great fighters do, he had moments in the AJ fight where it looked liked AJ had him hurt but he always comes back, it will be the same in a rematch. If Fury opens up more he leaves himself more open to getting tagged and also to tiring himself out.
     
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  8. dawz84

    dawz84 Member Full Member

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    Exactly, mate, that's what I'm saying. Usyk showed pure class and grit, coming back strong when it mattered most. I'm not sure what was going through Fury's mind when he eased off. It definitely wasn't a stamina issue; he's fit as a horse, just like Usyk.

    Maybe Fury was surprised by Usyk's resilience and the way he came out firing. When Usyk popped his nose, it was the beginning of the end for that fight. Fury looked sluggish after that. It was a turning point, and Usyk capitalised brilliantly. Both these fighters are top-notch, and that’s what makes this matchup so exciting.
     
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  9. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He,ll be back for more. Great fight both men put up last night. I still say furys a freak of nature.

    So is usyk tbf. At least usyks can be put down to dedication and discipline. Fury shouldnt have been able to do what he done last night in terms of keeping up with usyk. Usyks gameplan always works. Gets the opponents working harder than they want to be working from early and then starts drowning them as it goes on.

    And yet up until the turning point fury was getting stronger.

    Essentially it worked in the end but it was more through turning the fight with big punches more than what usually always works for usyk. I m not 100 percent sure it was working until that point...which makes the rematch intriguing.

    Usky an absolute champion tbh.....massive achievement giving away so many natural advantages. Tyson also the same. He should be done and dusted at this point....not lived the life. Weight issues. Drug issues. Mental health issues etc. But when it came down to it....he showed hes as good as we all sometimes believed just took a one off with unbelievable dedication and discipline to beat him.
     
  10. Niels Probst

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    I think he will shout and rant and make a big theatershow in order to sell the fight, take the fight, lay down early or quit, cash out and enjoy his money. This the absolute last time we will ever watch Fury in a titlefight.
     
  11. Niels Probst

    Niels Probst Member banned Full Member

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    I think he is. He is saving his money, and he is stinking rich.
     
  12. Justchris17

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    Nah this excuse is for when he fails a drug test to time out the ban
     
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  13. BubblesUK

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    TBF I did say that was likely... I'm surprised it happened so soon.

    Thing is, it's very easy to pick apart Fury's record if you want to - and I always thought Fury's reputation would take a hit bigger than the gains Usyks would make.

    There's people that are desperate to get a grip on why they were wrong, and they'll go to extremes to do it... For some reason, they won't go to Usyk being just too good and a legit ATG, even though many of them did exactly that for Fury when he beat Wilder.

    The truth lies somewhere in the middle... Fury was overhyped a fair bit, he's been given a pass for his limitations and been lucky to have his zero so long - but he's still a very good fighter, Usyk was just an elite and a step too far.
     
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  14. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I don't know whether Fury's all that smart.

    I think he's a natural.

    And naturals can often go an awful long way - but when they hit setbacks, they struggle because they don't truly understand how they got there in the first place...
    So they have a lot of groundwork to do to understand themselves before they can even begin to analyse where to go next - that's often a total barrier to actually being better.

    Fury's gone an awful long way, his herky-jerky style is a natural rhythm breaker and a serious challenge to the timing of most fighters - add that to excellent recovery and a freakish size that his natural style makes good use of and you have a good recipe for a natural fighter who goes a long way.

    As a sidenote... I actually think Parker was another natural, and it's why it took him years after AJ to build himself back better - but he's now reaping the rewards.
    Fury's problem is that whilst Parker had enough years left to go through that process, Fury doesn't.
     
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  15. JamesLightsOutToney

    JamesLightsOutToney Respect to all boxers Full Member

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    Let's agree to disagree then; I thought the show boating of anything played in his favor, swinging some of the early rounds his ways on many people s cards, while I felt Usyk landed more. But hey, let's see what s next, if anything
     
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