Will Tyson Fury retire now?

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  1. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Example: Last night Fury was smart in hurting Usyk with several uppercuts adopting the same strategy used by Lewis with Tyson but Usyk was smarter because he caught the right momentum to land that wonderful left on Furys nose breaking it and then to enter his guard with his fast hands making his power and rage explode on Fury's skull.

    Masterpiece.
     
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  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Fury still has a lot to offer but would like to see Ushk retire and just keep his record pristine and timeless

    He can be that forever mystical what if match up against past and future greats. He has nothing else to prove and he said himself he literally was absent from being a father for so long, so he should go and be a father again.
     
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  3. Gomo

    Gomo Active Member Full Member

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    Why would he retire he knows he can beat usyk. One 10-8 round changed the fight that's all , just one punch. It was close and fury outboxed him for a lot of the fight.

    If he goes away and works on his stamina he has a good chance he has all the tools.

    For the rematch he needs to get into the best shape of his life, no love handles no diet cokes. 4 months of clean dedication and he can do it.
     
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  4. BubblesUK

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    Indeed - but I think that's the difference between a natural who fights on exceptional instincts (Fury) and a conscious/thoughtful and knowledgeable master who can think, adjust and react under pressure and with remarkable effect (Usyk).

    I think a true genius in full control beats an exceptional natural instinct - and despite the size disadvantages that's exactly what happened.

    Fury's good, but that's as well as he'll do - the supercomputer has his records on file now.
     
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  5. BubblesUK

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    Agreed - the showboating made it harder for Usyk to make and maintain rhythm... Until he figured him out.

    Showboating and lots of blocked punches seem to have been scored for Fury by many, not how I'd score it but it's probably why so many have it close - that plus bias.
     
  6. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    “…the supercomputer has his records on file now.”
    I like that - bravo to you, sir :beer-toast1:
     
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  7. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Exactly.
     
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  8. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    It's not like he was completely embarrassed in there. He would have learned a lot from the experience. If anything he might as well cash out.
     
  9. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    Without the love handles he'd be 220-230lbs.
     
  10. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    We heard similar reasoning after Fury-Wilder 1.

    Wilder still had a chance even if Fury got fitter because he would've learned from the draw (lucky as it was) and wasn't totally embarrassed, so they said.

    Looking at how Usyk-Fury went along, Usyk gained more and more control the more they learned about each other. And being the more thinking as opposed to instinctual fighter, Usyk's probably more likely to dominate the second fight with what they now know about each other, I would think.
     
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  11. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    The problem is that Usyk is only going to get slower in the next year. The smaller more nimble heavyweights typically don't have the longevity the bigger brutes do.
     
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  12. BubblesUK

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    This is broadly speaking true... But Fury isn't a brute either, he doesn't bang hard enough or have the punch resistance for that - he's a big man, but he needs to be able to move across 12 without getting worn down and drowned again.

    If anything, I suspect another 12 months might age Fury worse than it would Usyk.
     
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  13. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wouldn't be surprised if fury gets popped for Nando again before or right after the rematch.
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was refering to how he may approach the rematch, more focused, less showboating. I was not arguing that the showboating was ineffective, in fact I've stated several times that the showboating was quite effective in luring Usyk in, confusing Usyk and led to some good punches landed on Usyk. So I agree that the showboating was more than just show, it was quite effective and it very well may have won Fury some of the early rounds. But in a rematch I would expect Fury to make adjustments and do less showboating, and taking a more serious approach.