Will Valero surpass Pac and Hatton in ATG list?

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  1. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl another nallege in the making or are you his alt?

    its boxing, only two protagonist. statistics wise, only probable 3 scenarios. how hard can it be to predict that? just because you correctly predicted the winner does not mean you are a rocket scientist. that is simple statistics.

    or did you study statistics?
     
  2. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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  3. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    I didn't simply pick a winner. I went into great detail as to why. If boxing were simply about statistics it would be much easier to predict. There are variables that cannot be calculated. Once again, you make a futile retort.:smoke
     
  4. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    calculate and statistic your ass jeff m, After a win over moqsuera there is nothing to talk about valero..:lol:
     
  5. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    nyahahahaha. stupid assumptions. statistics are different from odds.

    in statistics you only study the probable outcomes. in boxing since there are only 2 fighters, in theory there is a 50/50 chance of each fighter. since a draw is possible, the probability of it becomes 1/3 in terms of result. but since draws rarely happen in fights, it is thus more 50/50 in terms of pick.

    when you include variables, that is where odds come in but still quantified to the best possible estimate. it just goes to show how stupid your are. variables cannot be calculated? have you ever heard of an actuarian, or financial analysts? you know, they are the ones who calculate your insurance premiums, interest rates, rates of payment etc etc given variables like age, eating habit, income capacity etc?:hi:

    **** jeff, you really need to study. how old are you really?:yep
     
  6. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    You completely missed the point because you are just a Pac fan, not someone who knows about boxing.
     
  7. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    stupid ass really. Owned!!! :!:

    whining crybaby. :|

    i have been watching boxing since the middle 80's?

    did you finish elementary or at least high school? really, you are at the level of p4pdabest, (finito's boyfriend) in terms of analytical skills.
     
  8. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    So you can calculate the odds of whether a fighter shows up weight-drained like ODLH or if their chin will finally crack like Margarito. Or what kind of determination they will have that night, know the exact gameplan of each fighter, ect?

    Apparently you forgot there are two kinds of data?
     
  9. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Argumentum ad hominem.

    I still remember a poll that you made where there are just 5 of you who chose Valero to beat Pacman. That's the most lopsided poll that I have seen here.
     
  10. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Yep, that always proves true right? :patsch
     
  11. hmi

    hmi Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I just said that that was the most lopsided poll that I have seen here. What's with this :patsch one? Did I say anything wrong? You are too defensive already. Time to take a break and relax. Always arguing even in the internet is not good for the health. Try to be nice sometimes and you will feel better.
     
  12. scatterbrain

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    oh ****. what kind of data are these?

    really, talking to you makes me feel stupid. everytime you say I got more props because i correctly called fight so and so.:patsch

    and really, your post above clearly shows that you don't know anything about math, statistics even basic stats.

    have you ever heard of the term "assumptions". You know, you assume something as basis for you to make logical, real world feasible results.

    have you ever taken out an insurance? have you ever filled out a questionnaire? do you think they just wanted to know if your family had a medical history for heart attack just for the heck of it? :yep:silly
     
  13. Nestea

    Nestea Thirst Remover Full Member

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    Wow Owning Jeff M and Nallege is a bit of tradition now.
     
  14. ripper13

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    well if he plans to than he better start fighting big names asap
     
  15. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    This **** thread is still on?

    Ok let me break it down to you people. The simple and ONLY reason why these Valerotards think highly of Valero, is NOT because they TRULY believe in Valero nor do they see huge potential in him. Its because its a trend nowadays to root for people who are unknown because it is the "cool" thing to do. They separate away from the general consensus and form their OWN little consensus because its "cool" to be among the few. That's it.

    Oh and Jeff M predicted a Diaz win over JMM.