will we ever see this in heavyweight boxing again?

This thread was better the last time JAB did it...

Bowe/Holyfield I that time.

In this situation, there has been plenty of HW fights on the level of the Lyle/Shavers slugfest, there was very little skills in this one to be nostaglic about.

I vote for Cunningham/Mansour from this year as a superior fight.

 

Who's top 10? The RING? I think Cunningham should be top 10 as the current #10 Adamek clearly lost to him.

I don't believe Shavers was top 10 at the time of this fight anyway. He lost his rating after getting blown out by Quarry and dropping a decision to Bob Stallings.

Shavers unexpected game effort in this fight and a pair of wins over Henry Clark would get him back in the top 10.

Though the mid 70s was pretty horrid below the top 5. Ranked below Shavers in March of 76..Chuck Wepner, Bobick, Bugner, and Randy Neumann. ugh...I would favor old Adamek, Arreola, Glazkov, Perez, and Wilder over that lot.

 

Reprint of a RING article about the fight from December of 1975.

Lyle is described as #5 and Shavers is not assigned a rating.


These and other favorable comments came after 5th ranked heavyweight Ron Lyle had demolished Earnie Shavers with a barrage of hard right punches early in the sixth round of there scheduled 12 round bout.

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And here's some extra special grainy distorted footage for the old skool nostalgia fan boys.

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Could the reason that we don't get as many slug fests as in the 70s be the influence of Emmanuel Stewards style of fighting. You know, lead hand low, leaning backwards, weight distribution on the back foot, stick the jab waiting to counter or lead. Wlad, for example don't throw that many combos.

This alone obv doesn't explain it, but could there be a shift in thought? More D than offence?

EDIT: This style doesn't use a lot of head movement either.

 

So are you going to concede on any points JAB?

You've been shown several fights that could be argued to be as good as RING#5 Lyle vs (unranked)Shavers.

You've been shown a fighter that utlizes combinations and movement in Povetkin. Despite his short comings against Wlad, Povetkin has displayed a far more dynamic offense and defense than Lyle and Shavers ever did.

You talk about body punching and upstairs/downstairs combos and Povetkin just displayed these skills against Charr.

Also, the double left hook/right cross combinations that Povektin took Charr out with was in fact a favorite of the great Ezzard Charles. Povetkin is inconsistent but when he puts together, its beautiful.

 

watch the videos, povetkin bobs and weaves. Also can unleash 5-6 punch combos.

Honestly a guy like povetkin would clean up in the 1970's HW division