Will Wilder be disqualified in the trillogy

Tyson was not a lunatic.

Holy deserved the bite.

He was one of the dirtiest fighters ever to step into a ring, and as with most of his fights, he was continually leading with his big melon in the early stages of the fight....as well as using his elbows.

Tyson was frustrated that Lane was doing nothing about Holy's fouls, so he bit the MF.

Tyson should have booted him hard in the balls ( as should Kessler have done with Ward).

Holy got off easy with just losing a piece off his ear.

If I'd been Tyson, that would have been Evander's last ever bout.

And he'd never have had another erection either for the rest ofd his life.



As far as the thread question goes, I think any result here is possible.

I don't expect Deontay to do anything super crazy, and I expect him to lose just about every round for as long as the fight goes on.
His only chance is if Fury comes in completely out of shape, or makes a mistake. Fury has the blueprint for beating Wilder, who was never much of a boxer and got to where he did, mostly on the strength of his big right hand.

 

Wilder is a one trick pony but his one trick is one hell of a trick. Fury is far greater than Wilder but Wilder will always be a danger whilst he's still in the fight.

 

Tyson himself was a dirty fighter and he admits it in his book. He even tried to break Holyfield's arm.

The bully just got bullied.

 

Tyson actually enjoyed being in prison, he felt more peace there.

 

I could see something weird like this happening to create "drama", maybe not a DQ but something controversial which stops the fight, then we predictably see a 4th fight after gullible fans buy into the "controversy".

 

Seeing how Wilder reacts to getting beat again is one of the things I am looking forward to most.

 

but it wasn't a boxing match or even a sparring session, the little ***** had racially abusing Wilder then turned his vile attention onto Wilders young disabled daughter ... When Zelanof was on the ground I would have my two reliable & trusted long handled Spear & Jackson ball-paned hammers on the squirming little *****, he'd never walk in a straight line again...

 

Indeed there does not have to be a "justified reason" that was the point i was making, albeit obviously not clear enough.

However the OP was saying about Wilders mental collapse after a loss, which in a way was reactive to circumstance, there being a probable cause of course other factors possible, yes it could be classed as mental collapse and possibly needing treatment, but as a clinician would hope that you would see time as a big part of the healing process following the negative event of loss.

Fury however had what i described as official "mental collapse", as parts of this collapse clearly fit into DSM-5 or ICD 10 and most definitely needed mental health intervention. Deciding to drive car directly at a motorway bridge takes things up several mental health risk management levels, although of course he did not see it through, but had suicidal ideation, plan, intent and means to carryout that plan.

Of course there can and indeed are often underlying causes and predispositions for mental health issues, both internal and external.

If as you claim (and i am not disputing) that you are a psychologist of 20 years standing, then please may i suggest that you reflect on the issue of you making inaccurate assumptions that you call "obvious", which to you they may appear to be (hopefully those assumptions are with your non psychologist head on) when indeed the assumption is incorrect and most definitely not obvious, i am sure that you have heard the phrase "To assume is to make a ASS out of U and ME.

I do not OBVIOUSLY like or dislike either Wilder or Fury, i respect both of them as they both have held and one at present still holds the world heavyweight title, in my opinion that to me is the blue riband of our sport, ANY boxer winning that title I respect.

I have stated numerous times I think that a in shape both mentally and physically Fury has the beating of Wilder, AJ or any other of the contenders, are there issues i dislike about both Fury and Wilder yes, as i am a fanboy of no boxer.

If i was advising Fury post his last breakdown i would suggests that he cuts the jive/trash braggadocio type rants, it might be what lot of folk like to hear, however IF Fury were to lose against "Dosser" Wilder or others, his rants could come back to haunt him, and are another stick he or others could beat him with post fight, if that happened i do fear for his mental health, this another thing I have posted previously on this forum.

If my opinion is offensive to you so be it, I can assure you i am as big if not a bigger advocate for the mental and physical health of all boxers as you, our sport has had too many fighters damaged beyond repair physically, mentally and neurologically.

 

Bro i had this idea over a week ago that Wilder would be DQd from the fight in fact I was thinking on placing a bet on it, the man is so delusional that I believe he will do anything to win and that includes nut punch, head butt back of the head and PEDS.

Can anyone tell me if i bet on the fight ending by DQ and wilder pops dirty does that count as a dq if he pops after the fight?

 

He literally tried to hit Audley harrison with a downward punch to the back of the head when Audley was basically on the floor...

 

In the end it will depend on the ref. Hopefully it ain't Bayless...as he would be far more apt to DQ Fury for an invisable violation.

 

If it were only a matter of leading with the head then that would be a benefit to the opponent. But those cases are not just a boxer leading with their head. That's pressure and punches while their head is controlling their opponents space. Victor Ortiz? THAT is leading with your head dirty... Why didn't Tyson pivot or step back? A leading head, man, an uppercut sounds like it has an invitation. A leading head, sounds like it's ripe to lead into, well, anything... All those headbutts came after punches landed on the one complaining that their space has been invaded. That's all. Anyone who has even casually sparred will encounter and figure out the cause of this so quickly. Notice all these headbutters, Holyfield, Ward, Bradley, are usually low power dudes landing punches when the heads come together? C'mon. Move in punching when the other guy sets their feet and tries to parry it's going to happen.

 

Clearly they both have had a mental collapse. The difference hear is that one of them admitted it and dealt with the problems, the other one is still in total and complete self denial about it