Will Wilder fight again?

The fact he got as far as he did though is quite impressive. There was a time when he was considered by many as the biggest puncher of all time. He seemed to be mostly fuelled by ego and delusion, I guess that will only ever get you so far.

 

There was also a time when the delusional thought Fury was an atg, not an atg cherry picker.

 

Fighters can be managed so carefully that they look much better than they are.

Wilder's an extreme case, but he's far from alone in being put against poor opponents and then heralded as a great for beating them.

Pure hype... But plenty of people bought it.

It's easy to look like you hit hard when most of your opponents have suspect chins and very few have the power to badly hurt you back if you miss with a full power swing.

Wilder was always a mirage.

His ego and delusion helped build a persona that fitted the nonsensical image that was created for him...

It's not that ego or delusion got him far - it's that being extremely protected allowed spurious claims to be made about how he'd done so much... And his stupidity and ego meant he bought into it and keeps it convincing.

In other words, he was too dumb to realize quite how much he was being protected and quite how false the hype was.

 

This is exactly what I've been saying, some people on this forum believe he's past his prime but his whole career is smoke and mirrors

 

He may have been overrated but there was no quit in him. He always thought he could land that knockout shot right up to the final bell.

 

This is true.

He might have been a very average boxer with an ATG hype machine behind him, but he wasn't a quitter - to the point that he not only wouldn't quit when getting battered in the ring, but even insisted on a rematch that he was very obviously going to lose.

Not a great character, not great for the sport overall... But credit where it's due, he wasn't a quitter.

 

Fury 's whole career is minutely better than Wilders. Both hugely overrated cherry pickers without a good win to their name..

 

This is unfair.

Wlad is levels upon levels upon levels better than anyone Wilder beat... Even accounting for the fact Fury stank the place out and scraped a close win, it's still miles better than anything Wilder ever did.


Wilder ducked Whyte.
Fury didn't (he picked a perfect moment to fight him, as it turned out, but at least he was willing at all).


Fury's not the ATG he got hyped as for a while, but he's a solid legit contender in most eras - Wilder arguably wasn't even in this, not particularly good, one.

 

He quit in the second Fury fight, and turned his back in the Zhang fight. That's two times he's quit.

 

Ngannou, Bakole, Ajagba, Sanchez, Makhmudov, all good fights. Even a Jared Anderson fight might make sense right now.

Heard Chisora wants to fight him. Let's see that. Or let Whyte finally get his chance.

 

His corner threw in the towel and he got so angry about it he fired his trainer. Wouldn't call that quitting tbh, he'd have likely lasted another round or two before getting starched.

 

Joshua protested to the ref as well. I note you didn't address the Zhang quitjob. Why'd he turn his back on Zhang and signal to the ref he wanted out if he wasn't quitting?

 

Wilder didn't throw his own towel into the corner, and clearly wanted to keep going (ill-advised as that may have been). He was given no opportunity by the referee to continue, hence why it's not a quit.

AJ stayed on the ropes and didn't sufficiently show the referee he was willing to continue.

As for Wilder v Zhang it looked to me at the time that Wilder was simply outclassed, did that stupid twirling he did in open workouts and he got caught badly. He was knocked out, so not sure where you're getting the idea he quit from.

 

I hope not, because he'll keep taking L's at this point. It's Time to hang em up and do other things.

 

Since when is using the ropes to keep you up a sign of quitting? Also when is saying you want to continue a sign of quitting? Quitting is staying on one knee, turning away from the ref, refusing to answer his questions purposefully, or verbally stating you don't want any more. Joshua did NONE of those things. So how did he quit?

He didn't do that 'stupid twirling' thing. He literally turned his back on Zhang and walked away, waving his arm at the ref and angrily complaining about something before he got clocked. He wanted out.