Will Wlad Klitschko be remembered as one of the greatest world champions EVER?

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  1. thechosen1

    thechosen1 Active Member Full Member

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    I think your medication needs ad******g
     
  2. j0llsrud

    j0llsrud Member Full Member

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    Why do you need to fight in the US? And of his last 15 opponents, there have been 7 different American fighters, but i suppose they are not "good" enough?
     
  3. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    Already got him ahead of Henry Armstrong and Bob Fitzsimmons.
     
  4. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, of course!
     
  5. Azriel

    Azriel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's going to be remembered as the most dominant HW during the weakest HW era ever.

    Make of that all you want.
     
  6. Mendoza

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    Likely among the greatest in the divison. Remember this is a global sport now. Wlad's number of wins, title defenses, and logevity are very impressive.
     
  7. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    It amazes me how much people can block their common sense with bias. The guy hasn't lost in like 10 years. His record is 60-3 and the only thing preventing him from holding EVERY major belt is the fact that his brother holds it.

    He isn't even finished yet. He will be remembered as one of the greats and if anyone says otherwise, they are blind/stupid. I'm not saying he is the GOAT, but be realistic.
     
  8. locard

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    Wlad is already a legend and he'll be greater than Joe Louis when he hangs them up
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

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    He'll likely make most people's top 10 at heavyweight and on a H2H basis, he could be top 7 ish or there abouts.

    I'm not a huge fan of his, but only because his fights aren't overly exciting.

    If he were tested more throughout his career and he passed those tests, he'd be thought of in more glowing terms.
     
  10. JASPER

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    First, I hope the hell the TS is talking about the HW divison. this gives me an understanding of his over all understanding of the game.

    Pac and Mayweather get **** on for their fight selection . . . Wlad resume looks 10x worse. Mind you he has a far better record than anyone else in the division since Lennox, but that is not saying a hell of a lot.

    I say he makes the top 20 maybe the top 15 if he can pick up his level of op. I can hear his fans saying Louis fought the "bum of the month club". That period started after he cleared out the division fighting most of the top guys a few times and he gave a fight to his friend who was the LHW champ (probably to give him a payday). There is zero reason for him to fight the guys he is fighting since Haye . . . it is really pathetic.

    so right now I have him in the top 20 HWs but he can go up or down depending on the next few years until he calls it quits
     
  11. JASPER

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    :yep
     
  12. frosty36

    frosty36 Active Member Full Member

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    what....the....****
     
  13. blackbolt396

    blackbolt396 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's still fighting so don't know yet.
     
  14. vladboston

    vladboston Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, all the people voting no are racist.
     
  15. thechosen1

    thechosen1 Active Member Full Member

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    Im white Klittard but remember when heavy weight fights used to be big events there now none events



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