Will Wlad Klitschko reign many more years?

Yeah, that sounds about right. Id have to look further into as Ive only chosen one example to make a point.

 

That's not double standard, it's called a fact.

You say when Louis became the champion for a fact. Wladimir beat Byrd for the IBF world heavyweight title on 22nd April 2006.

According to your logic, Roy Jones never won any world title in his career.

 

Yet Larry Holmes is officially recognized for 20 consecutive World Heavyweight Title defenses. This breaks down as 16 WBC defenses, 2 RING defenses, 2 IBF defenses. (only 12 of which are recognized as lineal)

Just as Wlad Klitschko is officially recognized for 17 consecutive World Heavyweight Title defenses of the IBF crown. (10 of which are recognized as lineal).

 

No its a double standard because paper titles are meaningless. And Jones won MANY paper titles, he was just never the lineal champion. Your "facts" are anything but. :yep

 

Again, that sounds about right. Are you going somewhere with this or are you agreeing with me?

 

The record is consecutive World Heavyweight Title defenses. Not recognized lineal World Heavyweight Title defenses. And as in the case of Holmes, not even the same belt.

The claim that Wlad has 17 World Heavyweight Title defenses is valid.

 

I haven't specifically said that Klitschko has 17 or so "lineal" title defenses, but world title defenses, which is a fact. Not sure what are you trying to argue here.

 

Exactly.

Evan than, Wlad is three fights away from passing Burns and Holmes to be second to Louis for lineal defenses so same difference.

 

So youre on board with a fighter being declared THE champion without having beaten the champion or beaten the next best fighter in the division. Got it. You probably would have ranked Brian Neilson amongst the all time greats to had he beaten Marciano's record and retired undefeated to. After all, he was a world champion, wasnt he?

 

No, what youre doing is lending credence to paper titles as being legitimate even though there can actually be only one world champion. Brilliant!!

 

The record is for consecutive World Heavyweight Championship defenses. The present recognized World Heavyweight Championships are WBC, IBF, WBA, WBO, and RING.

Why the sarcasm? Can you be an adult? Irrelevant anyway as that would be a question of perceived greatness and resume, not world title defenses. As stands, the IBO is not recognized as an official World Heavyweight Championship by any other major sanctioning body of which Nielsen made just 5 defenses.

 

Of course HE IS NOT. Wlad is the undisputed #1 since years. Random paper belts held by unproven fighters won't change that.

 

Id say since beating haye and povetkin, hes pretty much undisputed, so that's at least 2-3 years I think.... though now he needs to fight Wildman.

 

trouble with the IBO is that ten years from now when they are recognised in a big five, some clown in the year 2025 will claim Neilsens defences DID count.

 

Don't be an idiot. Only the defenses after 2025 would count.

And Neilsen still only managed 5 defenses while never being recognized as a top 10 fighter. So cling to your fantasy of Neilsen and Wlad being interchangeable.

Lineal, Recognized World titles? It doesn't matter, in a few more fights, Wlad is still going to end up in the same place as #2 all time.