Will Wlad pass Lewis if he......

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  1. Vincent Gottschalk

    Vincent Gottschalk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beats

    # 1 Sultan Ibragimov
    # 2 Alexander Povetkin
    # 3 Ruslan Chagaev
    # 4 Chris Arreola
    # 5 David Haye
    And fights 6 more years with out a loss vs top guys?
     
  2. RonnieHornschuh

    RonnieHornschuh ESB indie police Full Member

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    no, he needs to win against some legends past their prime, but there aren't any left.
     
  3. KayEpps

    KayEpps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis beat every man he faced - Wlad can't say that!

    Plus - Lewis faced the better opponents - but we can't really blame Wlad for that. The Heavies just suck right now.
     
  4. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis would be better, but not by much.

    Lewis is my #4 Heavyweight of all time.
     
  5. dmille

    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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  6. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, but we'd have to rank him just outside the top tier all time. Along side Tunney, Jeffries, and Liston.
     
  7. Richel Hersisia

    Richel Hersisia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    NO.

    LL has beaten everyone he faced. And a lot of good heavies!

    Bowe
    Holyfield
    Tyson
    Razor Ruddock
    Morrison
    Mercer
    Vitaly Klitschko
    Tua
    Grant
    Mccal
    Bruno
    Briggs
    Golota
    Botha
    Rahman

    These were all decent, very good and some world class heavies.


    Tyson and Holyfield were not in their prime. but we can't blaim Lennox for that. They just didn't want to fight them.

    Wlad had a totally other class of competition, lost three and only revenged one. Wlad can make top 25 maybe if he beat those 5 and don't lose again. IMO a rematch with Samuel Peter is also necessary. Peter is much better now, and the last fight wasn't that decisive. it's almost the only good fighter he has beaten, besides Byrd and Brewster. Wlad hasn't fought an elite level fighter.
     
  8. djrock247

    djrock247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He would have to do all of the above PLUS knockout a rhinoceros, reincarnate Joe Louis and knock him out, cure cancer, balance the nation's budget and win American Idol just to crack the top 50.
     
  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    That tends to be how I view matters, but if the landscape were to change, I don't think it's impossible for Wlad to surpass Lewis, but it is extremely unlikely.
     
  10. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    4 seems a tad high; I have him ranked at 7:

    1. Ali
    2. Louis
    3. Holmes
    4. Marciano
    5. Johnson
    6. Foreman
    7. Lewis
     
  11. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No.

    It seems every day there is a post started by a desperate Wlad fan asking "if Wlad does this, this and this etc will he be as good as Lennox.

    The problem is that the division is so weak at the moment there's no one he can beat who would put him anywhere near Lewis.
     
  12. ChampionsForever

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  13. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    To Start With
    Vlad would have to prove he can beat Vitali.

    A faded past his peak Lewis still had the tools to beat Vitali. Vlad still hasn't fought anyone as good as his brother, even at his peak

    Vlad is rightly way below Lewis.
     
  14. KayEpps

    KayEpps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    DAMN :rofl :rofl
     
  15. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    Any rational person knows that ATG lists are largely based on personal bias that everyone has, and raw speculation.

    Anybody who makes a list, and takes themselves 100% seriously (as opposed to having a bit of fun for discussion's sake) is plainly irrational.

    The answer to the question that nobody asked is that it does not matter.

    As for the answer to the question, it is no.