Willard -vs- Johnson. Rare post fight footage.

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  1. Mendoza

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    I never saw the post fight celebration. Its starts at the 10:25 mark of the video.

    Willard was the toast of the town, meet with Bob Fitzsimmons, and Johnson himself says a few muted words at the end. Why Willard was such an in-active champion is something I never quite understood.

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  2. FrankinDallas

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    You know it's always told that Johnson was hounded and denied rights, but nearly every photo or
    film I see of him he's surrounded by admiring whites as in the end of this video.
     
  3. mcvey

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    Temperature 103 and rising!

    The size of Johnson's ass.
    Pot bellied
    Spare tire around his midriff , fat ,and flabby.37 years old!
     
  4. mcvey

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    Yeah ,even when they sent him death threats and took a shot at him at his training camp for Jeffries,they was just funnin!
     
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  5. reznick

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    After Johnson congratulated Willard, it left Jess feeling bittersweet. He said that he felt bad for beating him, and that because of his nice word and parting after the fight, Jess thought he was more of a gentlemen than most white people. Lol, as good a compliment gets at that time I guess! Yikes
     
  6. Seamus

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    Those white folks sure look happy.
     
  7. Mendoza

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    The temperature was 103 and rising???

    PURE BS. It does NOT get that hot in April in Havana, Cuba. Take a look at weather reports. Not everything you read and want to keep in memory is true.
     
  8. Mendoza

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    Johnson himself never had any problems interacting with the white fans on film.
     
  9. mcvey

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    He also said that week that he would draw the colour line.
     
  10. mcvey

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    That's because he wasn't a racist.If he had been he would not have married 3 white wives!lol
     
  11. reznick

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    Johnson was larger than his time.

    I think my favorite boxing quote is:
    "I'm black, they never let me forget it.
    I'm black alright, I'll never let them forget it."
     
  12. mcvey

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    Willard said," it was hotter than hell in there." I guess he was lying.They were fighting for78 minutes, plus the minutes between rounds that's another 25 minutes in that heat and humidity .Johnson was in front after 20 rds but running quickly out of steam he knew he was going to get beat because he sent a message to his wife saying ,"I am very weak,please leave the arena".
    He knew he couldn't ko Willard ,and that he couldn't last another19 rounds to a decision, but he went out on his shield ,having put up a courageous fight against a trained to the minute giant.
    I wouldn't expect you to give him an ounce of credit.That would be like asking the earth to stop revolving!
     
  13. Mendoza

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    Johnson, if he was as fat as you claim must have left those 3 wives flat. :)

    Johnson once said derogatory things about African American Women calling them two timers.

    As for the fight, watch the footage! It's rather close in the shown rounds until the final rounds.

    For his age, I think Johnson put up a good effort vs. a very nondefensive, mildly skilled Jess Willard.

    Willard was too big and strong to clinch and hold, so Johnson usual tactics went out the window, and he had to fight.

    Johnson did not go out on his shield. He was KO'd for a ten count. Going out on his shield would require a grater effort when further behind.
     
  14. Mendoza

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    Did he say that, or did some voice over simply say that?
     
  15. mcvey

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    Having watched the fight is it your opinion that the 225lbs Johnson was not fat?
    What Johnson who was briefly married to a black woman said,and it was to Ada "Brick Top",I could love a black woman but the only ones I was with two-timed me ,"which was absolutely true,as you would know if you had ever done any research on the man you hate with phobic passion. His black mistress Clara robbed him, taking his jewellery and even his clothes.
    Johnson didn't have any problem controlling big men, he handled Jeffries like a baby putting his arm up his back and walking him to his corner! He manhandled big men,Kaufman,Moran,McVey, Jim Johnson,Lang,Felix,Ferguson, Martin to name just a few. The referee Jack Welch said,had the fight been over 20rds he would have had no hesitation in raising Johnson's hand!
    BTW You've just emphatically proved the last statement I made in my previous post! Thanks!lol

    NB Going out on your shield is doing your best and continuing to try even when you know you can no longer win,ie Archie Moore v Marciano,Louis v Marciano and , most definitely Johnson v Willard!
     
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