William Joseph Saunders vs. Marcelo Esteban Cóceres

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Nov 4, 2019.


The Superb or El Terrible?

Poll closed Nov 9, 2019.
  1. Saunders on points

    62.5%
  2. Saunders by stoppage

    37.5%
  3. Draw

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  4. Cóceres on points

    0 vote(s)
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  5. Cóceres by stoppage

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  1. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade booted Full Member

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    Akavov
    Lee
    Eubank Jr
    Ryder

    and at a push Willie Monroe Jr, probably less that one tbf he probably did deserve to win that one. He could have still had an L if he was the away fighter though it wasn't a walk over and he was getting beat up in the last few rounds.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    CEJ lost clearly, best case for him was a draw. :nono:
     
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  3. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Active Member Full Member

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    Yes Saunders won that no issues there. He faded late on but did more than enough by then.
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 The Mercurial Mephistophelean Malcontent Staff Member

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    An argument for a loss is a stretch in any of those. He clearly beat Lee and Eubank, he looked horrible in the Akavov fight, but he didn't lose it. The only one that could genuinely be considered a draw is the Ryder match, finding a 7th round for John is nearly impossible. Even the most delusional of haters wouldn't bring Monroe's name up. So knock off your wanton hyperbole.
     
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  5. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade booted Full Member

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    I certainly disagree

    Cleaner, harder punches were all young Christopher.

    Ref was diabolical too allowing all of the holding, think US refs will be more up Jrs alley.

    Us refs don't tolerate clinching as much as European refs. Thats why Wlad looked so poor against Jennings. The Groves & Degale fights were just as bad tbh.

    It just ruins a good fight, hopefully Young Chris never goes back to the UK
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    @CST80 you keener on this card, or ESPN+ tomorrow night?

    I don't care much either way, but I know you are pro-Gypsy and yet also have a burning desire to see Roach take a L, and more importantly, a butt-whooping (more so than in seeing Herring win, necessarily, as I believe you're fairly ambivalent toward Semper Fi? :sisi1)

    I may or may not be able to pick up whichever you don't. Probably can do either main event anyway (both are in Cali)
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 The Mercurial Mephistophelean Malcontent Staff Member

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    For sure, I'll be all over this card. While it's a spectacle and deplorable in every way shape and form and an insult to the sport. I quite enjoy being the ultra negative fly in the ointment when it comes to **** like this. In fact I excel at it. I'm one of those guys that find it far easier to write a bad review than a good one.:sisi1 That and I actually like Coceres and actually want to see this match, even though its going to be a one sided domination, watching Saunders take people to school is a pleasure to behold, even when they're hopelessly overmatched.:lol:
     
  8. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Saunders is an absolute joke at this point.Hes virtually impossible to get behind as a fan due to him derailing his career every time he starts to build something.
    You may even get your wish since his one weakness is getting up for lesser opponents.
     
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  9. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Only thing is Saunders can really struggle in stay busy territory.
     
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  10. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm looking forward to the Haney fight. Santiago has decent wins over Jayson Velez and Jonathan Barros.
     
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  11. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Coceres record is atrocious. BJS, possibly by KO.
     
  12. jmb1356

    jmb1356 New Member Full Member

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    If Saunders could win in impressive fashion, this might get him a showdown with Canelo. How well is KSI/Paul expected to do?
     
  13. Marco904

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    I doubt it, even if Saunders blasts him out or clowns him for 12 rounds, would it actually be an impressive win? He needs a win or two over top 10/15 opposition to get himself in the running really. The only thing he has in his favour for the fight with Canelo at present is the strap so Canelo could genuinely call himself a 4 weight world champ.
     
  14. Badbot

    Badbot Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The entire WBO top 15 at Super-Middle is just trash(Some guys are decent, but holy **** do they not belong where the WBO has them ranked).
    1. Erik Bazinyan
    2. Rohan Murdock
    3. Zach Parker
    4. Zac Dunn
    5. Vincent Feigenbutz
    6. Willie Monroe, Jr
    7. Aslambek Idigov
    8. Aidos Yerbossynuly
    9. Roamer Alexis Angulo
    10. Juergen Braehmer
    11. Fedor Chudinov
    12. Emmanuel Martey
    13. Lerrone Richards
    14. Stefan Haertel
    15. Steven Nelson
     
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  15. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    :lol:
    Even the WBA Heavyweight rankings of the 2000's were better
     
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