William Scull Yero vs. Vladimir Igorevich Shishkin & Dusan Veletić vs. Tomáš Šálek RBR"

Imagine being frozen out of boxing for years and losing by highway robbery when you finally get a crack at a world title. What a joke.

 

If Shishkin managed to stop him in round 12 they probably would have just found a reason to disqualify him.

 

If I didn't know better, I could have sworn I heard that Scull got the decision...


I'm not having this friend's home made trippy wine anymore...

 

I had Scull 6-5 leading to the 12.
So I had it a draw. But Scull was close to going down.. he might got hurt by a stiff jab and spit his mouth guard out.. very bizarre as I had him winning the last 3 rounds heading into the 12.
Some rounds are hard to score.
If you take consideration of hometown bias, I guess. 7-5 Scull is somehow feasible.

 

Lol.

 

That's one of the worst decisions in a world title fight in recent memory. That should 100% be investigated.

 

We have same score.. although may be get there slightly different. But in agreement for the last 4 rounds.

 

I had Shishkin winning 117-111

The wrong man won.

 

I had it 115-113 Scull but quite a few close rounds could have gone either way.

 

That fight remained me of the type of bias scorecards you see coming out of America.

Germany should not be sinking to that level of corruption

 

Germany is probably the worst place for crooked scorecards/officiating, even ahead of the patented British robbery

 

Maybe if you go back 15 to 20 years this would be true.
But currently the usa are the kings of corruption

 

I have it 113 (Shishkin) - 115 (Scull)


Round 1: Shishkin is more active, clearly dominant in the exchanges with his left jab. Scull begins his evasive boxing, but he’s mainly in observation mode. Shishkin, however, fails to land his one-two combo (left jab + straight right), and he already shows a robotic approach to the fight, though he controls the center of the ring since Scull keeps moving away. At the end of the round, Scull starts clinching. 10-9 for Shishkin

Round 2: Scull is more accurate, landing more shots. At one point near the end of the round, during a clinch, he even catches Shishkin with a right hook. Shishkin gets messy in the clinches this round, even throwing illegal punches to the back of the head, probably frustrated by the Cuban’s evasive style. No penalty is given. Shishkin tried to be busier, but most of his work was blocked by Scull. 10-9 for Scull, no question.

Round 3: This could have been a perfectly draw , but near the end Shishkin begins working Scull’s body with his straight right. He was also busier, even though many shots were blocked, and he slipped Scull’s left jab effectively. For me, Shishkin takes it with his late body work and activity, forcing the Cuban to be a little more offensive. 10-9 Shishkin

Round 4: Scull’s trainer urges him on, sensing the IBF title slipping away. Early in the round, Shishkin works well with his right jab, throwing it 3–4 times — the first lands, the rest are blocked. He shows nice pull-backs to avoid Scull’s shots and counters, but they fall into the Cuban’s tight guard. Both fighters lower their hands, taunting each other and playing for psychological edge. Scull uses his left jab and movement, landing body shots that don’t hurt but score. He surprises Shishkin with a fast right hand; the Russian shakes it off and tries to counter by closing distance, but Scull clinches to break rhythm. Frustrated, Shishkin hits during the clinches. After separations, Scull again shows his defensive skills, slipping and landing left jabs to the body. He closes the round well. 10-9 Scull

Round 5: Shishkin starts with pull-backs, but Scull uses his reach to land a left jab. Shishkin responds by rushing forward, head down, hands low, showing his own head and upper-body movement. He spams his left jab 4–5 times into Scull’s guard but still connects. Scull gets frustrated, comes out of his shell, but Shishkin clips him with a jab to the head. Now Scull hesitates to open up, and when he does, the Russian clinches. Frustrated, Scull this time lands a rabbit punch. At the bell, both fighters stare down, with Shishkin showing he has the psychological edge. 10-9 Shishkin

Round 6: Shishkin keeps working Scull’s body with his jab, even landing a quick one-two downstairs. He taunts with low hands, baiting for a right hand (a bit like Wladimir Klitschko). Scull gets frustrated as Shishkin plays his game, waiting to counter each move. Shishkin was more accurate overall, though Scull still managed to land after clinches with his left jab. 10-9 Shishkin

Round 7: Scull is sharper, flicking light jabs but enough to swell Shishkin’s right cheekbone (probably started from Scull’s right hook in round 2). Shishkin, hands low, is less precise this round, boxing with his mouth open and showing lapses in defense. 10-9 Scull

Round 8: Scull is clearly more precise, continuing with light jabs. Shishkin tries hooks with his left for the first time and attempts more one-two combinations, but nothing lands — all blocked by Scull’s gloves. At close range, Scull lands a double right hook, but Shishkin clinches. Despite Shishkin’s higher activity, Scull’s accuracy and defensive style stand out. The Russian’s low guard and predictable pull-backs are now being read by Scull. 10-9 Scull

Round 9: For the first time, Scull is very aggressive, using his left jab repeatedly (4–5 times), landing on Shishkin. The Russian looks worn down, less active. He tries a body attack but Scull cracks him with a right hook near the ear. Shishkin isn’t hurt but looks tired. His counters keep hitting gloves. Scull now works with jab + straight right, circling and changing angles, preventing the Russian from closing distance, then clinching to frustrate him further. A dominant round. 10-8 Scull

Round 10: Scull keeps landing jabs against a hands-low Shishkin, who now looks tired rather than taunting. Scull mixes in the right hand and keeps clinching to break rhythm. At one point he lands a left hand right on the chin — fortunately he’s not a puncher. Shishkin’s jabs all hit gloves, but he starts copying Scull’s jab-and-clinch tactic. There are many clinches, but overall Scull lands 5–6 clean shots to only 2 for Shishkin. Ugly round. 10-9 Scull

Round 11: Both fighters feel the danger. Scull lands a right uppercut before clinching, repeating the move again. He looks a bit more tired now, while Shishkin seems to sense he’s behind and becomes busier with his jab, landing some. Shishkin also connects with a right hook before Scull again breaks rhythm with clinches. Hard to score: Scull landed the heavier shots, but Shishkin was busier and accurate compared to the previous two rounds. 10-10 even

Round 12: Another ugly round with lots of clinches. Scull lands a right uppercut but clinches every time Shishkin comes close. The Russian throws many rabbit punches yet still manages to land his straight right at least three times. Scull misses often or hits gloves. Both men are exhausted: Scull keeps holding, Shishkin’s hands are down, and his one-twos lack precision. Scull is less mobile, flat-footed. 10-9 Shishkin


To be honest, I didn’t understand Shishkin’s strategy of dropping his high guard to fight with his hands low , and then never correcting it (he only want to follow his gameplan for counter Scull but can't do it because of the low volume of punches of Scull and his defensive style). The Russian’s power is decent, but his rhythm is too robotic — left jab, straight right — and he only tries to control the center of the ring with the same predictable pull-backs. It wasn’t until the 8th round that we finally saw Vladimir Shishkin try something different.

In my opinion, Vladimir Shishkin is not a top 10 fighter in the division. I would rank him more around 13th or even 15th. Scull was able to read his movements, and the Russian tired quickly. Scull went for the finish in rounds 9, 10, and 11.

I believe Scull could definitely have beaten former world champions of the division such as Park Chong Pal (at the end of his career when he held the title), Alejandro Berrio, Murray Sutherland, Lindell Holmes… I think Scull is better than many in the history of the super middleweights, but his style is so boring that he won’t be remembered.

Shishkin against In Chul Baek would have been a great fight back in the day, but I don’t think the Russian would have won. In any case, he is too limited to beat past champions like Fulgencio Obelmejias or Park Chong Pal.