William Zepeda Segura vs. Tevin Farmer II & Yokasta G. Valle Álvarez vs. Marlen Esparza Puentes RBR

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  1. Bornslippy

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    You know boxing scoring is subjective right? In a fight there's often a choice between ineffective pressure and clean hurtful punches. Farmer hurt him multiple times and landed the better punches. The people scoring the fight in here seemed to have some personal grudge against Farmer because in no world was it that wide under any criteria.
     
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  2. Bornslippy

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    It was a weird fight. Zepeda marching forward throwing and missing punches constantly, completely one dimensional and ineffective. Farmer just stopped and looked like he wanted to quit in some rounds, did absolutely nothing. If Zepeda had some accuracy and power Farmer wouldn't have survived those rounds. Farmer looked like McCall against Lennox 2, he's lucky the ref didn't wave it in those rounds. Then in other rounds Farmer decided to fight and would toy with him, landing at will and hurting Zepeda with everything.
     
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  3. bandeedo

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    punches scored should be the primary criteria in any subjective, or objective scorecard. its how you keep score. everything else is secondary. zepeda scored many more punches through majority of the fight. it was a game effort by farmer, and he had his moments even at the end, but he was outscored and took some serious punishment.
    to me it looked like farmer didnt have a gameplan. at least not one that he stuck to for long. he didnt maintain the distance to stay winning from the outside, he was getting as good as he was giving at midrange, and his organs were getting rearranged on the inside. he never really got zepeda to switch from his own gameplan.
     
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  4. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was having a similar thought watching this last night. Against someone like Stevenson he's gonna have a lot of success potentially, against Tank Davis hes potentially going to sleep.
     
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  5. Bornslippy

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    I didn't see Zepeda landing too much. He certainly wasn't doing any damage with his punches. He was able to tee off on Farmer at the times when Farmer seemingly gave up. Zepeda had relatively dominant rounds when Farmer did nothing, but in the other rounds Farmer clearly had his way. It's one of the fights where punch stats mean nothing, because every round was completely different.
     
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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I know Compubox isn't always the most reliable source, but they're usually pretty close. Zepeda outlanded Farmer by almost 10 occasionally even 20 to 30 punches in rounds 2 through 11. Farmer only outlanded him in the 12th, whereas Zepeda only landed 1 more punch in the 1st round. Ironically the only 2 rounds I gave to Farmer were the 1st and the 12th, because they were the only two he actually deserved. The fight was not even remotely close.
     
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  7. Bornslippy

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    I disagree, punches need to be impactful. Zepeda' 'power' punches looked less than jabs, he was just walking forwards and poking with seemingly no impact on Farmer when he did land. Zepeda worked hard and stuck to his extremely one-dimensional gameplan consistently so I think he deserved to win, but by no means was it one-sided. If these were two unknown young prospects I'd be more interested to see what Farmer does in the future, he looked far more skilled and dominant whenever he threw. Zepeda seemingly gets buzzed by every shot that lands, and as far as I know Farmer isn't a big puncher. Two punches that stun Zepeda in a round are worth more than 10 pokes landing on Farmer by my scoring criteria, so that's why I would have had it closer.
     
  8. CST80

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    I get where you're coming from, there were two other matches like that in the last 2 days, Mayer vs. Ryan and Jerusalem vs. Shigeoka 2, which both were razor close, because the volume puncher was inaccurate and the counter punchers shots were more effective. But there comes a time when volume simply overwhelms accuracy, especially when the counter puncher isn't necessarily known for being some devastating KO artist. Zepeda vs. Farmer is one of those cases.
     
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  9. Serge

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    Like I said, I only caught a few rounds and one was completely one-sided, the others more competitive and in 2 of the 3 or 4 rounds I did see both were hurt albeit I honestly though Farmer was on the verge of getting stopped in the round he was hurt because he looked done
     
  10. IntentionalButt

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    Mystery solved.
     
  11. Bornslippy

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    Fair enough. I probably have a bias against that volume style, it's ugly and unexciting to me.
     
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  12. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That does explain it very well,
    Thanks for posting.