Williams v martinez NO ROBBERY

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  1. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    aside from the 119-110 scorecard...this fight was def not a robbery...this was prob the closest fight a I have ever watched...To say Martinez got robbed is incorrect IMO...i had like 3 rds even...just could not give either one the rd...i had PW winning 6-3-3 even...117-112 but it could have easily even been a martinez win and it would not have been a robbery in my book
     
  2. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    a lot of tight rounds... just depends what you like

    consistent work vs powerful single shots
     
  3. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    3 rounds even? :huh Anyway i agree with you that it was not a robbery by anymeans. Anybody with a brain should know this.
     
  4. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Close fight, yes indeed. With one judge that should be banned from the sport.
     
  5. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was not a robbery but i think it was a clear win for Martinez
     
  6. keure

    keure Active Member Full Member

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    i think anything beyond 115 113 for either fighter, shows the person scoring the fight either has an extreme bias towards one fighter or is a complete idiot, i wonder which one you fall in to
     
  7. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unless theres quite a few KDs in a fight normally the guy that lands the least loses. PW won this fight, If martinez wanted it he should have taken it.
     
  8. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry but 117-112 for Williams is absolute nonsense, even if you add "could've gone either way" (you still had it pretty one-way lol). You can make a case both won about the same amount of rounds, still, Martinez clearly landed the more flush shots. I just rescored it and changed from 114-114 to 115-113 Martinez. I rarely score it different in different viewings, but I managed to get a superb quality copy and Martinez manages to slip a lot of shots are looks flush whereas Williams gets hit flush most of the time.

    Here's an example of an "either way" exchange, the fight had many of these. Watch the difference of the quality of shots. Martinez slips and rolls with punches.
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  9. Bajingo

    Bajingo Boxing Junkie banned

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    No robbery, I scored it a draw. Just that one judge which has pissed everyone off.
     
  10. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    If martinez wanted it, he should have taken it? He thought he had...a lot of people did...he is, after all, a Champion at 154. What title does PW have? What should have Martinez tried harder to take?
     
  11. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You will never hear me talk **** about Martinez, but let's be real here...

    Martinez never once pressed the action. If not for Paul pressing the action relentlessly, this fight would've been more of a snoozefest. I know it's his style, but Martinez just wasn't aggressive enough in the eyes of some.

    And although a lot of people, including himself thought he had done enough, surely it wasn't enough to jump on his bike for the last 4 Rounds.
     
  12. BIGRIGHTHAND

    BIGRIGHTHAND Active Member Full Member

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    paul won a close and tight fight. not a robbery
     
  13. Little Pea

    Little Pea 'A' grade boxing fan Full Member

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    Every close fight is a robbery for ESB cheerleaders (or haters). This won't change.
     
  14. link2296

    link2296 Boxing Addict banned

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    i didn't feel he jumped on his bike for the last 4 rounds...didn't get that impression at all. I felt he won 8, 10, and 11 convincingly. I felt that it was the difference in the fight...i have no problem with an MD for Williams though...he definitely brought it, hence the reason we're still talking about the fight.

    Much resepct for both fighters.
     
  15. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Without the ridiculous scorecard there would be far less controversey.