Willie Monroe Tests Positive For An Unnamed Substance

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  1. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Really, they are issuing TUE's 19 days after someone gets busted for IV use?? I'd really like to see an example of this.
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

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    It was something like the entire Norwegian skiing, -athelon, climbing, etc. team back with the Russian Olympic hack.
     
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  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Russian Olympic hack. Google it.
     
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  4. thesmokingm

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    Pathetic attempt to minimize there.
     
  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    By the Russians? Haha.

    Don't like the answer, don't ask the question.
     
  6. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No tool, you're trying to pass off Monroe getting busted as nothing. The Russians got jack **** to do with this. And the Russians got jack **** to do with issuing fake ass TUE 19 days after getting busted. The Russians were doing something completely different you ****ing IV loving TUE fanboys.
     
  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    1. Never tried to pass off Monroe getting busted as nothing. I've pretty much only said negative things about him since he's so wildly overrated on here so that's not a thing.

    2. TUE loving fanboy? I'm the one talking negatively about TUE's right now. I'm mentioning the widespread and regular use of it in a context completely relevant to your post which I originally quoted. You sound like the TUE supporter, my man.

    3. Your original post mentioning USADA and your use of "IV loving" in this post shows your agenda here... cool. That didn't take much to read through. P.S. it was WADA.
     
  8. thesmokingm

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    WRONG, it was USADA. WADA protocols stipulate INSTANT BAN for any IV use, and/or over the limit with a TUE, DUMBASS. WADA doesn't regulate boxing in the US.

    And regarding this BS quote of yours that originally led you down into this laughable rabbit hole, you took my obviously polarizing joke personally which is why you tried to deflect by saying happens all the time in Olympics. This doesn't happen all the time in the Olympics because any IV use at all is an instant ban, and even with an official TUE there are limits like one of which is being hospitalized. Clearly none of that **** happens all the time. Thus why are you bringing the Russians in to it and rationalizing fake ass TUE?
     
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  9. Nonito Smoak

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    I will use your language to get through to you: WRONG, it was WADA. You DUMBASS!!

    WADA, not USADA, was hacked and exposed for providing retroactive TUE's to countless athletes during and in the lead up to the Olympics. You can look at the list of athletes and the substance they were given TUE's for. Literally. And yes, WADA said the information is correct when they condemned the "cyber attack."

    You clearly know nothing of the 2016 Olympic hacks, which exposed countless athletes for receiving retroactive medical TUE's. It makes sense why you sound so lost. You are flat out incorrect, nothing more to say if you are unwilling to check yourself.

    I'm not rationalizing TUE's. At all. I've only tried to tell you how prevalent they are and all you've done is buried your head in the sand... I never took issue with your post. I thought we were on the same page, actually, when I responded to you but that clearly is not the case.
     
  10. thesmokingm

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    That again is not the same thing. The use of TUE's are a private matter being that they ARE PERSONAL HEATHCARE information. Only noobs like you did not know TUEs were being abused thanks to them bears. Because its that ****ing easy to get a doctors prescription for whatever. That however is NOT the SAME THING as getting a rectro active TUE for banned IV use 19 days later. Getting a TUE for a banned procedure and abusing the procedure in your own home is like the UNICORN of corruption. And for the record, getting this fake ass TUE from an anti-doping organization in this case, USADA is the biggest comedy which you are too stupid to realize do not have authority to issue said TUE.

    However you are implying that all these dopers got rectro-active TUE which is something completely different, aka the UNICORN of TUEs. The only one that comes to mind getting a retro-TUE was Lance Armstrong decades ago.

    And again this was only made public due to the sleuthing of the investigating reporter. And all this is again got jack **** to do with MONROE.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

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    You still do not know what you are talking about. You need to go back and read your first post which I quoted, and then the next couple after. That is the context of what we are talking about, right? Or, is supposed to be.

    Those dozens upon dozens, hundreds, of Olympic athletes received retroactive TUE's. Literally days and weeks after competitions. World championships, major tourneys, qualifying tourneys, etc. There must be a few hundred known WADA unicorns out there. You should have a look at all those unicorns. Oh, wait. You choose to be naive, I guess you've dug in too deep. The system is massively corrupt. Massively. We agree there! You choose to be naive to the extent, is all.
     
  12. thesmokingm

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    I think you don't realize that there are types of retro TUE. If you get hospitalized and doctors give you steroids to promote recovery, and clearly you are unconscious how you apply for the TUE? That's where the retro part comes in. That is actually legit, though obviously can be abused. That's not what I referred to when I made the joke about the 19 days later TUE.

    In the case of the 19 days later TUE, it was unique very unique like the ****ing UNICORN of TUEs. Not only was there a retro TUE, it was abused in its application because you cannot be using IV's in your own home. Not only was it done in the boxers home, it was at amounts over ten times the limits imposed by the protocol which even a TUE cannot go above. Needing an IV implies hospitalization which was not the case here meaning the doper was not actually in serious intensive/emergency care. You need to freaking discern the difference between the two. One is not like the other.

    And I'd also add that USADA knew these circumstances before hand and still issued a TUE they have no governing power over. Not only that, but the issuance only happened AFTER the fact, not due to the fact. This is about as ridiculous as Lance Armstrong's rectro-active TUE for iirc 99.
     
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