Willie pastrano vs Ron Lyle and earnie shavers

Hed give them problems. An old, fat Peralta who Pastrano split two fights with (lost one when he was out of shape only trained for two weeks) gave Lyle fits and held him to a draw by moving and potshotting. Pastrano could do the same. The only thing that would give me pause Peralta had enough pop to keep Lyle honest. Pastrano couldnt do that.

 

It's a tightrope walk for Pastrano but he could pull it off. With Shavers in particular, one mistake could be Willie's last mistake. That said, Shavers didn't always shine against slicker fighters. I give Willie at his best a 50% chance against Shavers... Against Lyle, that probably moves to 30%.

 

Why 30%? A prime Pastrano? Like I said Peralta made Lyle look decidedly ordinary and that was a fat old Peralta. Lyle didnt exactly have a stellar record against boxers either.

 

More skilled??? Shavers is about the least skilled most overrated one trick pony in HW history. On top of that he had absolutely ****ty stamina. Yeah, Id pick Pastrano over him.

Lyle always struggled with boxers, trying to denigrate Erskine, London, and Harris to build Lyle up is pretty silly considering Erskine and Harris at least were much faster and more mobile than the lumbering Lyle. Stand in front of him and try to have a shootout and Lyle is a problem, move on him and he suddenly looks very ordinary.

As for Moore-Pastrano "I have not scored it myself" LOL. You mean you havent seen it. Pastrano worked around Moore like a cooper works around a barrel and the only thing that gave Moore a draw was a questionable flash knockdown. Even then Moore was better than Lyle ever was.

You can ask what big HW Pastrano ever proved himself against but what small mover in his prime did Lyle ever prove himself against? eaking out a draw against an ancient Peralta in the last round after having gone life and death with him in Denver and losing two to Young, as well as letting the, by then, slow footed Quarry make you look leaden doesnt inspire my confidence in him against boxers, especially not one as slippery as Pastrano.

 

It should be noted, Pastrano was only stopped twice in 13 losses in a 80+ fight career.

In those two stoppage loses, one was a controversial cut stoppage while ahead on points in London's home country
, the other was his final fight.


So banking on a KO against him may not be the best strategy.

 

-Holman made RING top 5.

-I don't think Lyle and Shavers should be described as "skilled"

 

And both of them were very very beatable by a wide variety of styles and sizes as proven by their careers.

 

Shavers was a guy that disregarded pace and defense. He was his worst own enemy in the ring with a high risk/high reward style.

Skillful and ring savvy are not terms that come to mind in reference to Shavers.