Willie Pep - Best BOXER Of All Time !

Lets not forget Argentina's Nicolino Loche...pure boxing mast but Pep was LB 4 LB the Best...126lbs of platinum and diamonds

 

If we're taking accomplishments into account, I reckon Benny Leonard has a better case than Pep for this mantle.

I actually have Leonard above Pep on my p4p list.

 

Jose is Sandy's daddy :yep

 

As do I.

 

Agreed, I think Whitaker was well smart enough to know his game though, as he showed against Nelson. I personally don't think anyone takes Saddler on the inside, Armstrong included. I think he'd be an awful matchup for Hank.

 

That uppercut would really be murder for the crouching Armstrong. If he would manage to hang inside with Saddler, it would only be due to his incredible mettle. Physically he'd be broken down.

 

Pep has by far the better resume its not even close. pep fought and beat all of the top fighters in his weight class of his era. Pernell Whitaker did not fight both the # 1 and # 2 lightweights of the 1980s, so he did not fully prove himself. Not to mention whitaker's much thinner resume doesnt match pep in quality or quantity. Who did whitaker beat that was as good as a prime sandy saddler?

 

pep had something whitaker did not.....offense. pep knew how to put fluid combinations together, and he knew how to always be active. Whitaker loved to clown and run, and though at times he showed flashes of sharp one punch counters(especially the left uppercut)......whitaker was never active or aggresive enough, all he showed he could do was make people miss punches without throwing any leather in return... willie also had better ring generalship than whitaker and was the smarter fighter and better footwork. Pep knew all the tricks in the book, and his duck unders/ spin his opponent manuevers were just plain genius.

 

Who were the no.1 and no.2 lightweights of the 1980's? Can't wait for the answer, and can't wait to tell you that Whitaker beat the guys who beat them :good

 

http://www.compuboxonline.com/recordbook.php

 

Hey Suze, you might wanna start keeping that stuff to yourself.

 

Hector Camacho and Edwin Rosario. Going 1-1 with a past his prime ramirez is not a good counterpoint, even if he was robbed.

Honestly dude im not that impressed. Pep shows far more flashes off offense and aggresion in his fights than whitaker did. In some of whitakers biggest fights, it appeared to me he was running a track meet, he simply clowned around too much. I dont think whitaker had that overwhelming comman prescene in the ring like willie pep, he did not control the entire fight in ways pep did. Pep was brilliant.


ps dont try to tell me azumah nelson was close to his peak because he was not.

 

Have you seen Whitaker fight? I doubt it with such an opinion.

Whitaker put on the 'mother' of all domintating performances against Ramirez in their rematch. I doubt if Pep done a similar type of job on a journeyman, never mind a world class opponent.

 

That's odd, considering he had some of the best wins of his career AFTER Whitaker.