Willie Pep deserved better...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Nemesis, Jan 4, 2008.



  1. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    John Scully posted this in general forum a couple of months ago and it received only two responses, shows the depth of the posters in there...
     
  2. UpWithEvil

    UpWithEvil Active Member Full Member

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    Arguably the best p4p fighter of the 20th century.

    134-1-1? Can you imagine doing ANYTHING better than your opponent 134 out of 135 times with one draw?

    I have some interesting rare footage of Willie in my archive somewhere, I'll try and dig it up over the weekend to share with the board. Thanks for posting this.
     
  3. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Please do UWE :good

    Peak Pep footage is as rare as Peak Greb footage
     
  4. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great to hear a relatively young guy like Marlon Starling showed up. The real shame is that the promoters and boxing higher ups did not pay their respect to a man who paved the road. However, the guy who wrote the article seems to be taking things a bit to far. When one is 84 years old, not all that many folks usually show up. My beloved aunt died @ 94 years and only about 50 of us were there, all family members and a few younger friends. None of her old friends were there as she outlived them all.

    Personally I would never attend a funeral of somone I did not know unless it was to lend support to a grieving friend/family member.
     
  5. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I see what your saying, but the Boxing community should have made the effort to pay their respects to one of the forefathers of the sport.

    LaMotta & Pep were supposed to be good friends I wonder whether Jake went
     
  6. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well Ray Robisnon was 141-1-1;)

    But seriously Pep was brilliant; if you do not have him in your top dozen fighters of all time, then perhaps you need to find another sport to love (I have him at #6).
     
  7. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've never done a list but I dont think I'd have him in my top ten, but thats because his resume isnt as deep as others, I dont doubt his greatness as boxer though
     
  8. Manassa

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    I think Pep was the best fighter ever. If he wasn't, he is certainly near the top, and for me he's the best to watch on film.
     
  9. Manassa

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    No.
     
  10. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    129-1-1?
     
  11. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Indeed. SRR was 124-1-2 at one point.
     
  12. UpWithEvil

    UpWithEvil Active Member Full Member

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    Nah, I'm pretty sure peak Pep footage actually exists :yep

    I'll see what I can scrounge up, I know I have some footage of Pep sparring with Sugar Ray Robinson, in case you haven't seen that. I'll post it, but only if Dempsey1238 approves - I'm his ***** until I repay him a couple of favors :nut
     
  13. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Robinson and Pep sparring? no I have never seen that, that'd be great

    I am sure Dempsey1238, will be OK about it as long as you acknowledge that Barney Ross is indeed the greatest fighter of all time
     
  14. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Robinson drew twice before Turpin are you sure, the Hecht fight was ruled no contest (after Ray was originally DQ'ed)
     
  15. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I stand corrected: 128-1-2