Willie Pep deserved better...

Willie Pep vs Salvador Sanchez at their prime would be a dream match for me.
Pep one the greatest top ten alltime......

 

The Underrated/Overrated thread

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Originally Posted by Manassa
Say what you want about Hagler as a fighter overall - but he was one of the hardest, meanest, toughest fighters to have ever lived in the modern era. The man was made of steel.


Robbi - He wasn't made of steel. Bone, flesh, and blood.


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Originally Posted by Robbi
He wasn't made of steel. Bone, flesh, and blood.


Manassa -Well **** me sideways.



That just sums you up. Your so easily wound up with your response, and decided to resort to foul language. Unsavoury words from whom?.

 

You know, Willie Pep really does deserve better.

 

I don't understand the people who rank Pep the greatest of all time but rate someone like Jones nowhere near the top due to lack of resume. They are mostly rating Pep based on what type of fighter he was and how he fought, rather than who he actually fought. Not underestimating his resume, as I have reviewed it many many times, and yes, overall, it's deeper than Jones's. But the main point is, most rate him on in ring performance and dominance, regardless of opposition in his prime, rather than resume, where he is nowhere near a Charles or Greb.

I for one rank Pep just outside my top 10, at #12, and I realize that I will be one of few to do it, but I see nothing wrong with it at all given what I've outlined above.

 

Is it OK to downgrade Jones for being a juiced-up cheater?

 

I agree, his resume really isnt that great if you carefully look at it. He is not top 5 based on his resume alone.

 

For once testing over the limit for testosterone quite a while back, while his opponent did as well, and upon retesting he was found clean? Somehow I don't believe it has much to do with it.

Seriously, he took Ripped Fuel. Big ****in whoop.

 

Seriously, he failed a test for anabolic steroids.

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Did Roy decide to go with the "Ripped Fuel" excuse full-time? I remember he was also peddling the "over-the-counter sinus medication" tale for a while. I guess "flaxseed oil" was already played out by 2003.

 

He tested positive once in his entire career for being over the limit to a much lesser extent than Hall was. Otherwise, what proof do you have? In any other fights? Or are you to assume that was the only time they tested him?

 

He failed a test for some prohibited substance that was never named. It wasn't anabolic steroid, the author of that letter was totally incompetent at such things, as she herself admitted.

 

"...besides his testing positive for steroids?

Was he tested for steroids in every fight? You know as well as I do that not only did the sanctioning bodies ignore PED use until recently, but that some state comissions still do not require steroid testing to this very day.

 

C'mon, let's not sully Willie's thread with steroid talk. At least check out the clip I posted on the previous page.

 

Ok, with the chats and all.
Was that Kid McCoy that just got out of prison in that interview?? Does my avatar remind you of something lol.

Well I a bet confuse on which Pep fights I got it from, I got a few from you, one or so from SS I belive, and the Saddler fights 3 and 4 from Silk Degrees from Cyber boxing.

 

Just started reading Peps bio, hope its a good read