Willie Pep v Manny Pacqiao

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  1. girv

    girv Gatekeeper Full Member

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    I think Pep would have been too hard to find.
     
  2. Leeroy

    Leeroy Do it Do it Full Member

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  3. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  4. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Pep would box his ears off.
     
  5. jupzrooni

    jupzrooni Tyler Durden Full Member

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    wow, seems that pep was really something else..

    i'm wondering though... how come white fighters right now don't fight or move like pep.. he's the only white fighter i've seen who has a brilliant technical skill and is hard to hit.. :think
     
  6. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's why I respect you. You know you're stuff.

    Can you imagine you Sparring with Pac during your heydays?? How do you think you will do with Pac in sparring???
     
  7. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Hey John, I was just thinking about starting a thread in which general forum posters would have the opportunity to ask you one question each. Of course, I would like you blessing before starting something like that, because it would be a considerable time commitment on your behalf.

    If you are interested, we could pick a time or day to start the thread, and I will start the thread and lay the ground rules that you choose.
     
  8. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Pep was almost unhuman.
     
  9. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks. I'll check it out.
     
  10. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's an ol' saying, P: "Whether the pitcher hits the stone or the stone hits the pitcher, it's not gonna be good for the pitcher."
     
  11. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No one was quite in Pep's league, j, but there were several in the '20s, '30s and '40s. Probably Benny Leonard'd be the best known.
     
  12. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Flattered, a, but think I'd rather jump in on a thread if I think I can add something.

    But if some one has a question, I'll try to answer it, as long as I've seen the fighter train and fight live.
     
  13. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  14. Thinman

    Thinman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hi John. I have a few questions if you dont mind.

    1- What boxers from 1970 up to this date you think would have the best chance to beating Pep? Please feel free to include any boxer who might be really good but probably we might not have heard of. You know...style makes fight.

    2- What are your top 10/20 at 126 ever, and based on what criteria do you rank them.

    3- Mention three boxers at 126 who you think could be champions in any era.

    4- What era or decade has been in your opinion the best at 126.

    Thank you very much in advance for your attention and your time. :good
     
  15. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lemme preface this by saying, T -- and it's really important -- I'm only gonna discuss guys I've seen train and fight live, so I'm bound to leave out fighters many believe should be included.

    At Willie's best , from the '70s on, no one jumps to mind at 126, although Camacho, Sr., Pac, JMM, Barerra and Morales would sorely test him.

    Instead of three, I'll make it eight who coulda been feather champs from the '40s on: Saddler, Famechon, Chalky Wright, Elorde, Pac, JMM, Barerra and Morales.

    There were more '26 pounders in the '40s, but the decades with the most top-tier ones were the '90s and now.

    Making a list of the top 10 or 20 feathers is too taxing for my mind right now. But if I were to do it, my criteria for what it would take for a boxer to earn a place on that list would be the same for any weight class I tackled: Talent, arsenal, power, hand 'n' foot speed, reflexes, whiskers, ring generalship and heart.