Willie Pep v Manny Pacqiao

Thank you very much John. Highly appreciated. I like your criteria. :good

 

pep takes this by TKO

 

Awesome stuff John Garfield, it's really interesting to hear the opinions of someone who's been around the sport like you have. It's much appreciated. :thumbsup

 

Reading thru your posts, I think I've learned more about boxing than several months' worth viewing past fights and reading up.

I hope you can give us all here at EastSide more of your time, sir. It's very much appreciated, and I think I speak on everyone's behalf here.

 

I havent read the other posts yet - will do next - but its astonishing to me that 20+ people have voted for Pacquiao, not because Manny is a bad fighter because he`s not, quite the opposite actually but 20+ have picked Pacman to beat the greatest FWT of all time in a FWT bout.

If you thought Pac looked frustrated when Morales or Marquez countered him, then he would be horrified trying to close the distance on Pep who was the best defensive fighter ever.

PEP UD PACQUIAO (10-2)

 

great stuff john:thumbsup how about guzman vs. pep?

 

Pep takes this one he was masterful.....I would much more like to see Pac vs. Saddler

 

I don't speculate on mythical match-ups, CJ. Over long experience, I've learned it's an exercise in futility. No way to win a case; everyone's dug in and won't move.

If guys were actually gonna lace'em up, I'd be the first to wade in.

As I mentioned earlier, don't like to comment on boxers I haven't seen train and fight live, but I'd have to say off the few times I've seen Guzman on TV, it would be hard not to be impressed by his hands speed.

But I'd haveta stop there. I think the real mettle of a fighter is like an iceberg: most of it below the surface; and I can't get a good gaudge on that without observing him for a long time in the gym (you pick up subtle, revealing tendencies) and watching him fight live.

 

Hey John, where and when did you fight? Just curious. My Dad was a fighter in the military and his father and uncles fought some pro in the 30s. The best one in our family was my great uncle who was a sparing partner with middle weights like Al Hostak while going to the University of Washington on a boxing scholarship.

My Grandfather fought in Seattle and Chicago in the early 30s. I can only find one fight of his in Boxrec and that was when he was only 14.

I don't think may of today's fight fans appreciate the depth of the talent from those days since it was THE sport back then. Every boy wanted to be the champ.

Anyway, I loved listening to the old boxing stories growing up and it is good to have a guy like you on this board. :good

 

Pep, easily

 

Why bother to argue on something that will never happen?

 

Pep wins rather easily. His sublime footwork would keep Manny off balance, allowing him to counterpunch Manny continiously. Unlike JMM, Pep is an ATg defensive fighter who would be able to avoid Manny's straight left, nuetralising his greatest weapon. Pac's best chance would be a 1-punch KO, which is very unlikely given Pep's outstanding defense. Manny's pressure, heart and power would always keep him in the fight, it just won't be enough to get him the win.

 

Pep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I boxed years after your dad and grandad, Z. Started amateur in '46 in New York. Continued in Florida in '54, and then in the Army at Ft. Bliss in Texas.