willie pep vs sammy angott?

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  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Does anyone know anything about the Pep-Angott fight of '43? Angott must have done some things right to deal with Pep and be the 1st to defeat him. I cant find anything on the fight.
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agnott was a notorious spoiler/clincher, so I'm imagining he frustrated Pep, tied him up and did some inside work and negated Pep's beatiful movement and use of angles.

    Can't imagine how else the Clutch could have done it.
     
  3. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Angott outboxed Pep, plain and simple. Not in the Ruiz style, but as a master boxer.
     
  4. hhascup

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    Unorthodox Sammy Angott was awarded a ten round decision over Willie Pep in Madison Square Garden, and in losing his first decision in sixty-two battles, the featherweight title holder can find some consolation in the fact that it took a former world champion to snap boxing's longest winning streak.

    Although the verdict was unanimous, the fight on the whole was uninteresting as Angott wrestled and bulled his lighter adversary during the first half of the bout to win the opening five rounds, and then tired badly in the last half of the going, in which Pep made a belated attempt to save the coals from the fire. The distance was too short, however. The chances are that had the fight been twelve instead of ten rounds. the Hartford lad would have come on to victory as Angott tired perceptibly from the effects of his six months' clouded period of retirement.

    Pep's fighting was far below the standard he has shown on previous visits here, and the hardest hit were the bookmakers, who had installed the Hartford mite a three and a half to one favorite.

    Angott. never did let the featherweight boss "get off.". Sammy crowded Pep during the first half of the battle, mauling him badly in the clinches and employing an annoying right-hand uppercut in close for which Wee Willie had no defense. It was clear that Pep was at a loss and didn't know how to cope with this style fighter, and by the time Willie fathomed the awkward former lightweight champion, it was too late to benefit him on the result.

    There were times during the fight when wrestling played a prominent part, and more than once, Angott mauled Pep through the ropes. There were, however, no knockdowns nor anything resembling one.

    Pep found the range in the sixth, seventh, eighth and ninth rounds. and scored with jolting right-hand counters to the jaw. Angott grinned derisively at these attempts, and although he was a very tired young man at the finish, the Washington, Pa., lightweight held his own in the final fracas to insure victory.

    Another near capacity house attracted a gate of $70,860. Angott scaled 134-1/2; Pep, 130-1/4..
     
  5. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thank you for that post, hhascup. I was always curious as to how that fight went down and how close Pep came to winning it. It sounds like it just took him a couple rounds too many to figure Angott out.
     
  6. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    thanks Hank where was that from did you see the fight or is it a report
     
  7. Senya13

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    Jack Cuddy from the UP:


    More than 16,000 fans saw Angott, a grinning, bull-necked veteran from Washington, Pa., outrough his smaller opponent in the excellent brawl to win the unanimous decision of referee Billy Cavanaugh and Judges Bill Healy and Joe Agnello. The United Press gave Angott six rounds, Pep three and registered one even.

    Angott, who retired as lightweight champion last November because of bad hands, was in excellent condition tonight and fought one of the best battles of his nine-year career as he tagged the splender dark-haired youngster from Hartford, Conn., with his first professional defeat.

    Angott, who had gone into the ring a 3-1 underdog in the betting, started off in grand style, winning four of the first five rounds. Then young Pep rallied to fight on even terms in the sixth and to click off the seventh and eighth. At that time Pep, who also had won the fourth session earlier, threatened to take command of the fight.

    But Slammin' Sam, despite his 28 years, had the stamina and dynamic energy to slow up Pep completely in the ninth. Angott jack-knifed his opponent with a left hook to the body, followed by another left hook to the head. Then he barraged the youngster with more body hooks. Pep fought desperately in the 10th but lost that final session by a slight margin.



    AP:

    It was a new Sammy altogether as he rushed in with swinging hooks through the first five rounds, beat Pep to the punch repeatedly, and piled up too big an edge for the New Englander to overcome.

    At the finish, the Associated Press score card voted five rounds to Angott, three to Pep and two even.

    Although the crowd of 16,384 was the smallest in several weeks, the $11,50 "tops" for ringside pews boosted the gate to $70,860, one of the better cash returns of the season.

    There's no doubt that Sammy was tiring from the seventh round on and that there might have been a different story to tell if the fight had gone 15 rounds, as it was originally scheduled.

    Angott Strong at Start

    But it was a "tenner" and for ten heats it was Sammy's fight as he began to climb back toward the heights he voluntarily gave up last fall. For the first half of the shindig Pep, who had romped over every opponent he's tackled up to now, wasn't even in the fight.

    Starting with the fifth, "Wee Willie" began to open up and turn loose the speed which had him a 1 to 3 favorite in the betting. But, although he scraped Sammy's right eye in the fifth and came along to take the seventh and eighth, there just wasn't enough time left for him to come on.

    Willie was out there winging in the tenth, obviously realizing he had to set off a knockout bomb to save his winning string. But Sammy was tasting victory by now--and it tasted good.



    INS:

    At 134 1/2 pounds Angott was sharp and a better fighter than I had ever seen him in six previous starts that I witnessed. Pep was as good as ever, but packed some excess poundage at 130 1/4. That didn't lose him the fight, though. Angott simply won it.
     
  8. mcvey

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    Angott was good enough to stop a young Ike Williams with body shots.
    Him beating Pep is maybe not too much of a surprise, plus he was a natural Light weight.
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    wait senya why do you hate pep
     
  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thanks much HHascup..much appreciated..I'm intrigued at how Angott did it, spoiler and clutcher or not.
     
  11. hhascup

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    It was on page 48 of the June 1943 issue of the Ring Magazine. Angott also the Fighter of the Month.
     
  12. albinored

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    .....thanks for those good write ups on the pep-angott fight. the first edition of the "pictorial history of boxing" (fleishcer and andre)..page335 shows angott practiallly pushing pep through the ropes. another picture shows him holding on in a clinch. one more picture, taken after the fight, shows an exhausted pep getting an ice pack applied to his face.

    i;ve never seen angott fight, but this seems to similar to the tactics appled by sandy saddler in thier last two fights. sandy was harder hitter and clearly at times a dirty fighter, while willie himself was a trickier, hard to spot dirty fighter at times.
     
  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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  14. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who said I do? I could have posted a lot of pro-Pep stuff too, but I was waiting to hear some educated (ie, based on research in primary sources, not on reading secondary sources written many years after he was fighting, or on studying his record at boxrec/RRB/etc) arguments in return, alas I have heard none so far.
     
  15. albinored

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    ...uh..senya....werene't those 1943 accounts of the fight contemporary?