Willie Pep was 62-0 at one point, Is he the best ever then Floyd ?

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  1. SonOfCuba

    SonOfCuba Well-Known Member Full Member

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    According to Floyd's and Calzague's way of measuring the all time greatest Willie Pep is then way better than both of them right ?

    Fighters need to stop thinking the 0 will be the most important factor in were they end up in the all time list... cause its not !
     
    SonOfCuba, May 4, 2010
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  2. El Intocable

    El Intocable Guest

    According to some floydette Pep would lose to Valero.
     
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  3. SonOfCuba

    SonOfCuba Well-Known Member Full Member

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    haha jokers.
     
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  4. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Why did you even start this thread lol...
     
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  5. zangetsu

    zangetsu Getsuga Tenshou Full Member

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    The quality of opponents counts, not the quantity.
     
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  6. di tullio

    di tullio Guest

    pep > floyd.
    floyd > calzaghe.
     
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  7. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    And Marciano was 49-0
    Wilde 93-0
    Chavez 88-0
     
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  8. KOKid

    KOKid Member Full Member

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    Longest unbeaten streaks from professional debut (40+ fights):

    93-0-2 Jimmy Wilde
    89-0-1 Julio Cesar Chavez (loss early in career was later chaged to NC)
    69-0-7 Jamie Gine
    65-0 Nino Benvenuti
    64-0-4 Gustav Scholz
    62-0 Willie Pep
    60-0-1 Ruben Olivares
    58-0-1 Teddy Yarosz
    56-0 Yory Boy Campas
    53-0-1 Tom Bogs
    52-0 Carlos Zarate
    52-0-3 Waldemero Pinto
    55-0-1 Kid Chocolate
    51-0-1 Pascual Perez
    51-0-1 Del Flanagan
    50-0-1 Ricardo Lopez
    49-0 Rocky Marciano
    49-0 Brian Nielsen
    49-0-1 Jorge Jose Fernandez
    48-0 Larry Holmes
    48-0 Darius Michalchzewski
    48-0 Patrizio Oliva
    47-0-3 Eder Jofre
    46-0 Nikolai Valuev
    46-0 Joe Calzaghe
    46-0 Ruben Castillo
    46-0-1 Miguel Angel Aguero
    45-0 Marcel Cerdan
    43-0 Ricky Hatton
    43-0 Marco Antonio Barrea
    43-0 Lamar Clark
    43-0-2 Chris John - STILL ACTIVE
    42-0 Peter Kane
    41-0 Don Steele
    41-0 Floyd Mayweather Jr. - STILL ACTIVE
    41-0-2 Percy Jones
    41-0-1 Adalbero Ochoa
    41-0-1 Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. - STILL ACTIVE
    40-0 Sugar Ray Robinson
    40-0 Felix Trinidad
    40-0 George Foreman
     
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  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Marco Antonio Barrera was 43-0 before his first professional loss.
     
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  10. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pep came from a different era, when fighters fought much more often, and politics were even more important than now, and fighters could be shafted by promoters and lose fights early in their career, with flagrantly corrupt judges and referees.

    The two cannot be compared. The 0 is way more important now that is certainly sure, but in the past it did not mean anything.
     
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  11. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    pep fought 90% bums. don't believe go to box rec. and pep loses to bums and medicore fighters. Some people are just plain dumb


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  12. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    would floyd EVER LOSE TO A 8-4 fighter?
     
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  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Nice, thanks.
     
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  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Surely, "could Floyd beat a top 5 candidate in his best weight class" is a much better question?
     
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  15. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    You haven't watched even a minute of Willie Pep footage have you? :verysad

    Be honest.
     
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