Willie Pep - would his fans please justify his placement in their top all time lists

Funny how you're so adamant about having proven a point, yet I didn't see anyone agreeing with you on much of anything today. In additon, you just admitted that your arguments were off base. Furthermore, you were unable to answer some of the other author's questions such as " have you ever seen Pep fight? ".

To tell ya the truth, Joe, I think you're better off just letting this one go.....

 

Had you seen Willie Pep live -- at his best -- you'd take back every word, ChJ.

 

China Joe said he had a son??:shock:

 

I'm such a shot poster now -fullstop-

 

Couldn't have been earlier than September 2006...that's when his account started.

 

You have a son, China Joe? You BEAT your son?

 

He beats his own son?????????,oh well that about sums him up

 

Can one of you unfortunate nostaligics justify putting Pep above Jones -questionmark- Jones look infinitely better on film, equal quality resume, no loses whatsoever in his prime (nothing even close to one), multi-weight champion -fullstop- Just admit it, none of you have any credibility whatsoever listing Pep at 3, 4, 5 etc -fullstop- -fullstop -fullstop when you are listing fighters like Roy Jones and Joe Calzaghe below him, not even in your top 10!

 

So who exactly did Jones ever beat?

Since you do not rate Pep's oposition perhaps you would care to coment on Jonses.

 

If we all do this then presumably we have credibility with each other.

 

Hopkins and Toney who you guys will love in 20 years time - and plenty of other titlists

If we look at the numbers behind Jones' opponents they generally appear better and they appear better on film -fullstop-

 

There is a reason you left at the part about Jones and Calzaghe, placing Pep above them is mystifying -fullstop-

 

Forgive my impertinence but I don't find it particularly mystifying at all.

Indeed I find your position positively baffling.

 

I genuinely hope you don't believe that - why should Pep be above Whitaker though -questionmark- Lets see whether you are keen to put down your hero or whether you might actually become objective -fullstop- You agree a case can be made to place Whitaker higher on a P4P list right -questionmark-

 

Justify placing Pep above Jones - disregard Jones' competition against Pep's - it cannot be done without turning into Bert Sugar - any person being logical, objective not wearing black and white tainted glasses can see Jones is above Pep