Willie Pep - would his fans please justify his placement in their top all time lists

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  1. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He would get clocked repeatedly attempting his artistry, he would need to become an aggressive swarmer or be buggered as he lacks the reach to be a truly effective counterpuncher against todays quick opponents
     
    China_hand_Joe, Jul 17, 2007
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  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Well, I consider the 80's and 90's to be the peak of boxing skill level, so I can agree to that as it's not as good now generally as it was then.

    The HW's are downright pathetic.
     
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  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Why don't you make some recomendations, based on the ones you've actually seen ? :bbb
     
    mr. magoo, Jul 17, 2007
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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Not only am I double daring him now, I'm double DOG daring him...
     
    mr. magoo, Jul 17, 2007
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  5. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [yt]e4IsZxqeJos[/yt] They all jab like domestic fighters and lead with horrid wide punches half the time - I'd snap their head back with a proper modern jab if they tried to feint like that against me
     
    China_hand_Joe, Jul 17, 2007
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  6. Manassa

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    Notice the feinting - a lost art in today's general fight scene.
     
    Manassa, Jul 17, 2007
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  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Looks pretty good to me. you must be one hell of a fighter to make such a bold claim. Do you mind if I inquire about your fight career?

    1. Are you a pro or amateur?

    2. What weight do you fight at?

    3. Are you ranked?

    4. Can I find your credentials online?
     
    mr. magoo, Jul 17, 2007
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  8. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    sugar ray leonard prolly has a better overall resume than that and he only fought like 40 times.
     
    brownpimp88, Jul 17, 2007
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  9. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=334517&cat=boxer
     
    China_hand_Joe, Jul 17, 2007
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  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    cross_trainer, Jul 17, 2007
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  11. mr. magoo

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  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah he does, but he doesn't have the dominance in his prime, longevity and consistency of Pep. Also, I think he lost to Hagler (as well of course to Duran), making his resume not THAT much more impressive than Pep's.
     
    sweet_scientist, Jul 17, 2007
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  13. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The difference is Leonard fought a lot of the best fighters in a modern era and moved through weight divisons
     
    China_hand_Joe, Jul 18, 2007
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  14. janitor

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    They were all filmed with 1940s vintage cameras you plonker.
     
    janitor, Jul 18, 2007
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  15. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Less frames would make them appear deceptively quick
     
    China_hand_Joe, Jul 18, 2007
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