Willie Pep - would his fans please justify his placement in their top all time lists

No it would make them apear the same speed but less smooth. The film is still in realtime.

 

So you're basically saying that you'd knockout Pep and his peers with only one pro fight under your belt?

 

Absolutely underrated and more or less forgotten. The man has wins over Montgomery (4 of them), Ike Williams (by stoppage), Lew Jenkins, Baby Arizmendi (whom he beat in his 10th fight. It was Baby's 99th), and Kid Azteca whom he beat in his 130th fight)... and that's not all:

In an 18 month period, Angott fought Lew Jenkins (and beat him), Montgomery (and beat him -twice), Robinson, and Armstrong. Oh, and he beat Pep. That's about as good as it gets.

I'll go further than that. I would argue that stylistically, Angott's punch and hold style was the foil for Pep. The naturally larger Angott wouldn't allow for Pep's finesse and Pep hated him until the day he died -but never fought Angott again. Pep went undefeated for 63 fights before Angott and another 73 fights after the loss.

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Armstrong v. Angott (1943)

 

Yeah...but he's a direct descendent of Genghis Khan!!!:yep

 

No wonder I couldn't find your record! I was trying to look it up under "Socrates!" (Achilles,...Socrates,...- it seemed to fit!)

 

I'm still chuckling! Eric Crumble!!! Talk about living up to your name!

By the way, the guys in the video were good fighters. Better than modern-day Crumble.

If a past-his-best Pep could defeat Sandy Saddler, he was more than a mere product of rose-tinted nostalgia for the past.

 

Okay,

I've officially had enough of this thread. Time to move on.

 

Hear, hear!:good

 

You can accept what the **** your little shell like brain wants to you silly mofo.:hi:

 

so when you're fighting more than once a month... (bearing in mind most pro's will spend MONTHS training and preparing for ONE fight), and you're winning every time, you can win a round against a decent championship quality fighter without throwing a punch, and you do this for 136 fights with one loss, thats incredible. because irregardless of whether they're glorified sparring sessions or not - the opponents are fighters, they are licensed. he cleaned up an entire era. that shows his greatness for me. then when you watch him, he always gives the impression that he is controlling the fight, he's making the other guy miss, he's making the other guy open up for pep to put him to sleep. the guy was tough, agile, endurable, had imense amounts of stamina and above all incredible willpower to fight so often, win so many. the comeback from the plane crash which broke his back just adds to his legacy.