Willie Pep - would his fans please justify his placement in their top all time lists

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by China_hand_Joe, Jul 16, 2007.


  1. Manassa

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    Of course - he was much taller and had a stronger frame.
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Fair enough, but I don't think that was your original point.

    You stated that Willie Pep doesn't deserve to be rated on the same level as Sugar Ray Robinson. I in turn, responded by pointing out that the comparrison was irrelevent, given that Pep was an all time great featherweight, while Robinson was an all time great welterweight/middleweight. Ok, so maybe these guys met at featherweight in the amateurs, but that shouldn't have anything to do with how they rate in their own perspective divisions as professionals.
     
  3. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he didnt actually, according to SRR himself, it was a close scrap
     
  4. Manassa

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    That speaks better of Pep than it does for Robinson, then.
     
  5. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thankyou
     
  6. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hypothetically, the greatest featherweight of all time might be inferior to the best 5 welterweights of all time, weight divisons are fairly irrelevant in the context of this thread -fullstop-
     
  7. Mega Lamps

    Mega Lamps Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lol, Pep lost to a larger SRR in the Amateurs; that means nothing when comparing greatness.
     
  8. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How so, he goes and fights Pep in his own backyard and beats him, how does that appear better for Pep. whatever advantages Robinson would have in height and reach would be counteracted by a thicker set Pep, they did fight in the same weight class
     
  9. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Robinson was weight drained -fullstop-
     
  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Are you a boxer, China Joe?:think
     
  11. Manassa

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    Because Robinson was bigger - naturally bigger.
     
  12. Mega Lamps

    Mega Lamps Well-Known Member Full Member

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    China_Hand_Joe is a joke and so is this thread. China_Hand_Joke should be your new name.
     
  13. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The question is whether some of Pep's opponents should be considered boxers
     
  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Too clever to be a boxer.:yep
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No, the question is "are you right in the head."

    I just put on my Pep footage. He's brilliant. If you can't see it you can't be helped. If you don't think he belongs on all time pound for poung lists, that's fine. You won't be correct in most of the fighters you place above him though.