Win you rate higher.....Morales over Pacquiao or Barrera over Hamed?

The Pac he beat, brutalized an ATG in Barrera and would easily KTFO any featherweight in the world today.

 

Damn it, Boggle. Don't you keep up with every post on the Valuev express? Lenin Cat called us to arms to make sure Stone Head got its due cred. He wrote the first review. What else have you missed on the express? Bajingo's tribute? The article where Haye admits he knew Valuev was only clowning when he "hurt" him in the last round? My video on Valuev's body punching mastery? The conspiracy against SNV by UK and USA reptilians thread and book? What else have you missed, man?!

 

Yep, he beat a more hungry, younger, stronger, faster version of Pacquiao.:good

 

This is such a typical excuse from Naz nuthuggers. Can you honestly say the outcome would have been different a couple year earlier? Naz had freakish power and awesome natural talent but he would have Never been able to handle Marco.:nono Guys like Marco,Sal Sanchez,Azumah Nelson,Juan M Marquez,Pedroza,Arguello had the the great boxing skills and smarts to always beat a awesome talent but flawed Naseem. I think MorALES would beat him too if he fought a disciplined fight(thats a big if).

Although Pac proved to be Barreras superior. Style wide i think him and Naz is Pickem:huh Im leaning towards Pac but its a close call. I can see Naz dropping the bomb on Pac:bbb

 

Pac has improved but dont be fooled:nono The reason Pac has looked so awesome is because PFP the guys hes fighting dont got nothin on Marquez,Barrera,Morales. I give Pac a lot of credit for being just as gret when moving up, but Clotte,Cotto,Hatton and a washed up ODLH are not the them same fighters PFP as the "Tres Amiigos" . Pac(Roach) has just improvised his gifts and talent to make it look like hes improved as a fighter. Believe this if Marquez,Morales carry there talent to wELTER Pac would have his hands full:yep



PS Marquez is Pacs nightmare and i know hes counting his lucky stars that JMM cannot be a legitimate top Welter.

 

Manny would do horrible things to Marquez at 140lbs. Horrible things.

Otherwise, it's nice to agree with you again, Anarci. :good

 

I think id have to agree with you Addie. Im thinking Pac would finish woud he started. Too Bad the A Meth hasnt hit Mexico yet


I guess the power pellets are better than the **** drink:beer


PS Hey Addie ive never undersood your hate for JMM i think ability wise he is on par with Morales,BarrerahuhMaybe). Its not his fault he was shafted out of these big fights that would have boosted his legacy.


IMO Marquez is definitely an All time great. Hes another guy that i watched develop at the forum... I remember the first time i saw JMM fith telling my Dad, this guy is a future champ. I said this kid reminds me of Salvador Sanchez. I believe Marquez only had about 10 or 11 fights at the time and he already looked like a polished veteran.

 

I hate Juan Manuel Marquez? :blood Surely not. I just don't believe he's as great as his contemporaries.

 

Im convinced a prime Marquez would have whupped Hamed and Morales:yep

Style wise i just see Marquez being all wrong for those guys(especially Naz) Naz has a punchers chace early but after 4 rounds i see Marquez schooling him worst than Barrera did(maybe even stopping him).

I hear theres talks about a Marqueaz-Morales fight:-( Too bad this didnt happen 5 or 10 years ago. Even though i picked Marquez in their primes, i think this would have been a very competetive fight. If they were to fight now Marquez would put a serious beatdlow opn Morales. FOr Morales sake i hope this fight doesnt happen it would be an injustice to Morales....

 

Yes he would actually...But if Marquez was a natural 140lber...thats another story.

 

:verysad Fail.

Gets a razor close decision in a hard fought 12 rounds? Absolutely. Whupping Erik Morales? Comb that beard, and let's reevaluate what great fighters Marquez has ever whupped? I'm struggling here, Anarci. I need help.

 

...And an alternate universe in time.

 

I went with Barreras win over Hamed.
Hamed was an elite level unbeaten fighter and he won in dominant fashion. Whilst Morales was shot and beat a future ATG.... back then Pac wasn't the fighter he is now. He didn't have the work rate, combination punching or a right hand back then. he was all left hand and power.... if that version of Pac was the same version we see now i would find it more impressive but on a skill set point of view that version of Pac was a totally different fighter to the guy we see now

 

Erik Morales was not shot in the first Pacquiao fight.