Winky Wright..a defensive fighter..? really..?

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  1. horst

    horst Guest

    I really like Winky, I think he was limited but very effective. He is labelled a defensive fighter because defence was his prominent attribute, ie his defence was noticeably watertight at his peak. The label is a compliment to his defensive abilities, it's not a slur.
     
  2. samsuska

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    Very good post. I think an acurate description of Winky is disciplined and assertive. As for the Mosley wins i definently give him good credit for those as well, but I believe Winky's natural size advantage over Mosley enabled him to control those fights. Regardless of the small size advantage Winky did have, Shane had plenty of success at the weight and is an elite fighter clearly. The Tito win is a great win, as Tito is clearly elite and though past it, Winky would have beaten him in his prime though it would not have been a shutout. I also had Winky as winning the Vargas and Taylor fights; but they were tight and Winky did let off the gas pedal at crucial moments late in those fights. Winky is elite at junior middle and world class at middle. As for describing him as a defensive fighter I believe that is a narrow minded and inexperienced description; Winky was so much more as we all have articulated. I would like to see Winky in the next few months take on a fringe contender to possibly get back in the current picture somewhat.
     
  3. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    i would consider him a defensive fighter. i would call hopkins a defensive fighter yet he can def bang. abe might have the hands up style but he is just taking a backward step so he can land with his flurry's. he doesnt box well either does abraham. he is agressive and always dangerous.

    even if winky could punch harder the way he dominates the fight with his guard makes him a defensive fighter.

    it's like water breaking onto the cliffs if you dont know how to handle him. look at the punchstats and see how few punches land on him. same with marlon starling a bit he might fight on the inside but his airtight defence and workrate keep him in the fight.




    and bodi's post with the quartey reasoning is a very good illustration
     
  4. TommyV

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    'Defensive' stems from 'negative', and 'negative' stems from his disciplined style. Like it or not, his style is based around that tight-guard and jab. It's cautious and safety first.
     
  5. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Winky was very defensive early in his career-he used to move alot-check out first Mccart bout.Problem is he wasn't really followed until years latter in his career by people like you who had never seen him in his prime.
     
  6. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great points.

    I also thought Winky beat Taylor fairly clearly. Even though the fight was ugly, he deserves credit for giving Bernard a tough fight far above his best weight, and of course shutting down even a past prime Tito the way he did demands respect. I personally don't think much of Shane at 154, he probably wouldn't have been campaigning there sans BALCO, he'd already been beaten badly twice by Vernon, and then he went on to get a semi-gift against a past prime Hoya. My score of Wright - Vargas always seems to vary by a point or two, it was an excellent fight that could have gone either way.

    I'm not very familiar with Wright before his higher profile fights. Did he change his style to come forward more, or did he change his style post Vasquez?
     
  7. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Winky was a fighter with a good defence who didn't fight defensively, ie. he would press the attack, walk forward and try to outwork his opponents. However, he would rarely committ to a punch (except the jab) which meant he was well-balanced but had very little power.

    Bodhi has given the best description of Winky in this thread.
     
  8. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Compered to most boxers Winky Wright gets hit?
    A. Signifently more than most boxers
    B. Slightly more than most boxers
    C. About the same as most boxers
    D. Slightly less than most boxers
    E. Signifently less than most boxers

    If you say D. Than he is probbly a defensive boxer
    If you say E. Than he is defently a defensive boxer.
     
  9. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Of course Winky was a defensive fighter..as he was coming forward and punching, as has been described, he was also SIMULTANEOUSLY performing as a defensive boxer with those gloves up and that tight defense of his..how else the hell could a guy like him, not terribly strong, with little real pop on his punches been so damned successful as he was without having a sterling defense? He was constantly on defense, even in the midst of his punch output. He was, and probably still is a damned good defensive boxer.